Re: Electric water pump ??
[Re: Stanton]
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02/14/25 04:12 PM
02/14/25 04:12 PM
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I'm using a Meziere electric water pump on a 526 stroker big block (street car). The pump as well as the fan is triggered by the temp sensor.
The question is:can the thermostat be eliminated AND should I install a restrictor plate to slow down the flow through the system? You can eliminate the thermostat with an electric pump provided you pay attention to the temp gauge. Just don't turn the pump until the block water starts to get hot. Once the needle is up to 150 or so you can flip the pump on and start to circulate water. You have to be very careful about this since if you forget to turn the pump on you'll overheat the engine. Use warning lights to remind you. You never need a restrictor plate with a Meziere water pump. None of the Meziere pumps will flow enough water to justify a restrictor plate. The more water you can force thru the engine the better. With a Meziere pump, cooling increases as flow increases.
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Re: Electric water pump ??
[Re: AndyF]
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02/14/25 07:33 PM
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Stanton
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I'm using a Meziere electric water pump on a 526 stroker big block (street car). The pump as well as the fan is triggered by the temp sensor.
The question is:can the thermostat be eliminated AND should I install a restrictor plate to slow down the flow through the system? You can eliminate the thermostat with an electric pump provided you pay attention to the temp gauge. Just don't turn the pump until the block water starts to get hot. Once the needle is up to 150 or so you can flip the pump on and start to circulate water. You have to be very careful about this since if you forget to turn the pump on you'll overheat the engine. Use warning lights to remind you. You never need a restrictor plate with a Meziere water pump. None of the Meziere pumps will flow enough water to justify a restrictor plate. The more water you can force thru the engine the better. With a Meziere pump, cooling increases as flow increases. Thanks for the input. The pump will be activated by the Terminator ECU - as will the fan - when the engine come ups to temp The beauty of the ECU is that these can be triggered seperately at different temps.
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Re: Electric water pump ??
[Re: metallicareload]
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02/14/25 09:27 PM
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Cavitation is very unlikely to occur in the pressurized side (downstream) of pump, and “excess” flow encountering restrictions would further increase the pressure, which would make cavitation even less likely….. Based on what exactly? Boats experience cavitation all the time with say 8' of head (11 psi?) and at low speeds. Not sure that is a fair comparison, but it is one. The main point I am making, we don't precisely know I suspect. Where does it occur? On the front of the propeller is most likely. Inside the cooling system of an engine, the inlet portion of the impeller is the most likely part to experience cavitation. I agree, and I suspect a lot of testing takes place to determine if a cavitation problem exists and how to reduce it. But restating my point, does that same effort get applied internally of a head for example, even if it's a less likely source?
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Re: Electric water pump ??
[Re: Stanton]
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02/15/25 08:59 AM
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I'm using a Meziere electric water pump on a 526 stroker big block (street car). The pump as well as the fan is triggered by the temp sensor.
The question is:can the thermostat be eliminated AND should I install a restrictor plate to slow down the flow through the system? I've used a Meziere pump WP 105 (it bolts into a stock housing) since 2007. I use a restrictor plate (basically the same size as a punched out thermostat) It's cooled the 528, 572 and 655 engine versions of my Challenger street and strip with no issues. I've had various fans and controllers on it (the breakages being due to heavy wheelstand landings). Using firmly mounted Davis twin fan digital controller (fitted recently) and Spal fans at the moment, they seem to be working well ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif)
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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