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440 Chinese Intake #3285693
01/29/25 12:34 AM
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Anyone bought/tried the obvious Chinese copy of the RB Edelbrock RPM intake from Ebay?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186725178360?_skw=440+ramcharge+intake&itmmeta=01JJR8TG4Z7D6KSRR1PNT7QYSA&hash=item2b79b01bf8:g:mUUAAOSwpUlnCN-u&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkLye3iQKP1if6zuyT1OwumbLKDBZlaojjGXFjmYIDeYAl64URmopTfWzfed30PksQQHE58Qxyo%2Blzb0Ozkxvm4ZFQWqDKPrBaTvc62VEWkvw0lFcxtWmZ7dIQWGu6I%2FbyUdHaLPUPApbUzV%2FsFtZDMH5FGXyCuAdwW%2FA2nJYVkFLAts2l0j3WSw5EBB9nIvQ1aQkuO%2FT%2Bz9z0%2BaG3%2BAcXddNL%2FjTT%2FqQFGWDGV%2Fd1M9TprhWkmd67udalSWoHnIqA%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUOCD6oiWZQ

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: WO23Coronet] #3285706
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They need to make some Chinese TF castings!

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: MrMayhem] #3285768
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Why do you advocate for Chinese production at the expense of U.S.? Only because it might save you a dollar or two? shruggy


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3285779
01/29/25 11:28 AM
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I am grateful to have been able to buy a TF manifold for my 383 and would hate to see it's design ripped off after they took the initiative to produce a quality product..

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3285780
01/29/25 11:32 AM
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I'm not sure the OP is advocating, but asking about it: as in performance, fit, & problems.
I have no experience with that manifold - I've run the Eddy version on a couple 440s - but I've heard the ports are smaller than the Eddy originals.
Whether that's true, one of the real engine builders here will have to say.
I'd instinctively suggest the OP search for a good used Eddy version, but they might be scarce in his area.

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: topside] #3285783
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Note: My response was NOT to the OP, but to the follow up exclamation.


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3286336
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I personally dont care where the part is made, as along as the parts are priced in accordance to the quality. I work in manufacturing, have been outside the country many times to oversee production processes... I would estimate that 70% of the time our processes here in the US are inferior to the production lines in many other counties. We tend to try to do things as cheaply as possible while many manufacturers who import products have high tech, clean production facilities that follow Lean manufacturing philosophies... especially Asian manufactures.

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: MrMayhem] #3286379
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Originally Posted by MrMayhem
I personally dont care where the part is made,


Really?!?!?!? I am glad you cleared that up. rolleyes


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3286417
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Is Edelbrock still made in U.S. ??

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: Thelma133] #3286422
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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3286434
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Has anyone tried 3d printing intake manifolds yet?

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3286552
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Apparently you must not be aware of the innovative machinists and manufactures in Australia... Those guys are are cranking out some serious parts that we cant get here easily. The players in the performance industry should take note of the stuff they are building for their cars, some pretty amazing stuff, Heads, Intakes, Rockers, Headers and suspension that I wish we had in our market here.

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: roadrunninMark] #3286554
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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
Has anyone tried 3d printing intake manifolds yet?

So a copy of a copy? Why? I see weiand, Edelbrock, etc BB intakes for sale in good used shape all over the place.

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: MrMayhem] #3286598
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Originally Posted by MrMayhem
Apparently you must not be aware of the innovative machinists and manufactures in Australia... Those guys are are cranking out some serious parts that we cant get here easily. The players in the performance industry should take note of the stuff they are building for their cars, some pretty amazing stuff, Heads, Intakes, Rockers, Headers and suspension that I wish we had in our market here.


You are making assumptions in a weak effort to distract.

Your strong support of offshore manufacturing and in particular Chinese knock off parts is noted.


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3286614
02/02/25 10:38 AM
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Speedmaster / ProComp "clone" of Edelbrock Victor 440 intake

Edelbrock Victor 440 intake

Speedmaster BB Mopar intake


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: MrMayhem] #3287010
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what are you missing that we dont have here? you can pretty much get anything you want if your willing to pay for it?


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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: Brad_Haak] #3287062
02/04/25 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
Speedmaster / ProComp "clone" of Edelbrock Victor 440 intake

Edelbrock Victor 440 intake

Speedmaster BB Mopar intake


Those two intakes are completely different. these is nothing similar about the two. Runner size, height, exterior construction, all different. I've ad bot intakes in my hands and even the weight is different (Speed Master seemed heavier).

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: migsBIG] #3287065
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oh boy, I just went to the Chinese intake and it is a blatant rip-off. Not only are the intakes identical, hey list Edelbrock part number and info in their own ad! Even though the intakes don't have a name, it looks like they just smoothed out the Edelbrock name in the and even the US flag square in the casting!


knock off intake

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Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #3287075
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Hopefully without starting a flame war, a few things to think about. First the people that over the last few decades who decided to move our manufacturing offshore were not elected, they made those decisions following the laws of capitalism. Next, stop and think what political party most of those CEO's belonged too?

Second for those of us in the car hobby, there is no real alternative for companies to get small run parts for older cars, crankshaft forgings, piston blanks etc. When those CEO's decided to screw American workers because they kept asking for those pesky raises and health insurance, not only did they kill the jobs they eventually killed the infrastructure and accumulated technical knowledge of those workers. To restart those manufacturing concerns will involve a lot more than simply not buying a Chinese manifold.

Third almost all the mainstay performance companies have been bought up and are being run as public companies, Holley and all the brands they now hold are a good example, a private equity firm Sentinel Capital Parners now owns and runs Holley.

list of companies under the Holly umbrella https://www.holley.com/brands/?msockid=0c5091f6d49d60a507c49f2bd5356128

so seriously as a good capitalist yes, I will select a product that gets the job done at the best price. These companies don't give a crap about American workers or preserving the American industrial base. They just want to make money. And I just want to get the best bang for what little money I have.

Re: 440 Chinese Intake [Re: jwb123] #3287080
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We still have some manufacturing here. But won't if enough buyers take the "I will select a product that gets the job done at the best price" attitude on knock off parts.

There is nothing wrong with imported items in and of itself. But when it is part of the dismantling of American manufacturing for the selfish attitude of saving a few bucks on a hobby, then it is very short sighted and again selfish.

Who here believes that the Chinese are going to do any R&D on Mopar intakes or any other of that kind of item? They leave that expense to Edelbrock and then rip it off.


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