Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/22/24 12:55 PM
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cudaman1969
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I have always heard how "lite" these cars were. And for their size they are not as heavy as one might think. But with all of the ones I have owned NONE have been what near 3200. I must be lucky. Last to were 3400ish but I will also admit I have done nothing really to take weight out but plenty to put some in like cage dana etc. My current 64 is the secind heaviest one I have owned the only one heavier was the 64 Savoy wagon My first car eventually was patterned after the FX cars, lexan side glass back and front with vent window removed. All the tracks removed. One van seat and anything bolted on not necessary was removed. Before I sold car I was searching for the aluminum front and doors plus the glass dash, lexan back window. Those FX cars were reportedly around 2800 pounds. A fellow racer out of Jersey had his 64 Dodge post car down to that weight with no fiberglass or aluminum but ALL the reinforcements and bracing were removed just hood-trunk-door-roof skins, 440 auto and 8-3/4 with minimum cage, It was too extreme for me. Also never had any problem keeping cool with stock radiator.
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: clovis]
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12/25/24 10:22 PM
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My 65 Coronet has a 67 Coronet k frame
I used a Lakewood scatter shield I have 66 up headers The stock 65 trans mount was gutted and I used pieces of a diplomat trans mount in its place I flattened the pinch weld Clutch z bar is on a bit of an angle but it's not terrible.
There is a lot more room for a clutch fan or electric fans and a larger radiator which is likely the best benefit in my opinion
This winter I will find out of the clutch can be changed with the engine in the car. It's pretty tight get ng the shield off.
I used to care but....... things have changed
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: clovis]
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12/26/24 02:25 PM
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My 65 turbo car had a lot more room after dropping in a 69 K. The clutch Z bar was going to be tight so I went back to a 727.
The pinch weld had to be flattened a bit but that was about it. For the trans mount, I flipped the crossmember around backwards and made it work. Naturally, the drive shaft needed attention. I was running a C-body pan because that's what I had.
I can't comment on header clearance since I was running turbos but it opened up room to run the big Mercedes cooling fan.
Firewall clearance was tight but it fit without issue.
I only have one good pic of the engine compartment and it doesn't show much in regards to clearance.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/26/24 03:04 PM
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I have always heard how "lite" these cars were. And for their size they are not as heavy as one might think. But with all of the ones I have owned NONE have been what near 3200. I must be lucky. Last to were 3400ish but I will also admit I have done nothing really to take weight out but plenty to put some in like cage dana etc. My current 64 is the secind heaviest one I have owned the only one heavier was the 64 Savoy wagon My 330 is 3,460 lbs. with a full (15 gallon) tank. Heater delete, radio delete and bostrum seats. All steel/glass with Dana 60, 6 pt. and subframe connectors.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: GY3]
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12/27/24 12:05 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Mine must be hiding a LOT of bondo...Will now soon enough as finally the 1/4's and outers are on the way. I would love from mine to get down to there believe me. Mine is also ASAG, full cage and a Dana, 20 gallon cell which will be replaced with one we fab to hold more. Less weight maybe we can finally get to running right at the cage cert here in Vegas.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/27/24 05:42 PM
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dvw
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My 64 has a light hood, lexan side and rear windows, no window regulators (has straps), light bumper brackets, no wipers, heater, back seat, or exhaust system. It does have a mega block, Dana 60, full cage, large radiator/fans, heavy intake w/2 carbs, and is all steel including bumpers. Weight can be as low as around 3125lbs with no driver or fuel. Race ready just over 3350lbs. Doug
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: dvw]
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12/27/24 08:26 PM
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My 64 has a light hood, lexan side and rear windows, no window regulators (has straps), light bumper brackets, no wipers, heater, back seat, or exhaust system. It does have a mega block, Dana 60, full cage, large radiator/fans, heavy intake w/2 carbs, and is all steel including bumpers. Weight can be as low as around 3125lbs with no driver or fuel. Race ready just over 3350lbs. Doug Life goals...New 1/4's and wheelhouses just showed up today so we shall soon see how much filler is in here
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/28/24 01:27 PM
12/28/24 01:27 PM
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cudaman1969
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My 64 has a light hood, lexan side and rear windows, no window regulators (has straps), light bumper brackets, no wipers, heater, back seat, or exhaust system. It does have a mega block, Dana 60, full cage, large radiator/fans, heavy intake w/2 carbs, and is all steel including bumpers. Weight can be as low as around 3125lbs with no driver or fuel. Race ready just over 3350lbs. Doug Life goals...New 1/4's and wheelhouses just showed up today so we shall soon see how much filler is in here Throw the pieces up in the air, if they fall back to the ground, discard them. My car was similar to dvw car but no cage just a roll bar and braces, with Max Wedge, 8-3/4 at first.
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/29/24 12:35 AM
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FMJ's work was done on his 65 Coronet... It was different from what nearly everyone else does... Most of his art was right in front of your eyes and you didn't even know what you were looking at...
...FAFO...
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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12/30/24 10:59 AM
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Where the illegal car that took out a legal car just drives by the scales and is DQ'ed? Or the guy that red lights on the first bulb. That kind of NHRA racer? Sounds like the 1964 and 1965 US Nationals SS eliminations, engineered by Ford. I'm sure there are many more that I wasn't aware of too.
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: John Brown]
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12/30/24 12:12 PM
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Al_Alguire
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FWIW in my case I am not looking to get the weight way down at all. If it can get it 34xx I would be happy. Not taking anything out of it, we are just painting the car and its hiding extra weight for sure. Its fast as is so no reason to go crazy. Engine is out getting upgrades as well and it will never have more than an 8.50 cage in it, so no reason to go crazy here,
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: K member swap 65 B body
[Re: cb1289]
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12/30/24 07:54 PM
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clovis
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What are the aluminum biscuits?
I started my disk brake conversion and while under the car noticed how heavily the headers were clearanced for the tie rod.
Last edited by clovis; 12/31/24 06:21 AM.
'75 Plymouth Duster ‘65 Plymouth Belvedere
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