Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: CMcAllister]
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12/25/24 05:35 AM
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We use a shield as they have less chance of fouling stuff when installed, we have all the upgrades mentioned below plus steel planetaries, h/d i/p and o/p shafts etc. I've never seen one explode at the track but I have heard of a guy blowing one apart way back doing neutral drops or some other type of abuse. As has been mentioned, correct operation of the trans will help too. Vid covers what needs to be done to minimize the risk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trUfoiS2Mew
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: SportF]
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12/25/24 09:17 AM
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I've said this here many times before. NSS racer almost lost his foot when the tranny went and the shield did NOTHING. It disappeared in a cloud of dust and only some Kevlar fibers remained intact on the bell housing bolts. The gas pedal did more. Feel a shield, then feel a blanket. Tell me which feels like it could absorb a 2 pound fragment at speed. I find it hard to believe a shield passes certification. Good luck. I totally agree I have seen several carbon fiber shields fail in keeping shrapnel out of the car. Spend the money and buy the right parts to be safe, and a blanket will keep the shrapnel out of the car.
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: gch]
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12/25/24 02:29 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I have my old 727 from my 73 Charger from 20 years ago that had a forward pattern manual valve body but no low band apply (which I did not like for street driving).My local trans builder retired as well.
Now to find someone trustworthy with 727 experience close to central NC. I have no problems doing it with the right parts the first time. If only there was a reputable place close by without shipping. Time to start checking around.
Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. You can probably do it yourself. They are one of the easiest and most simple designs to work on with a minimum of special tools. I did my first one on the garage floor when I was 15 and it worked great in my cousin's AMX. Gus
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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12/25/24 03:30 PM
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Blanket. Shield available on the web never fit properly. I have 2 blankets, one has Kevlar. He’s not close, but pro trans did mine.
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/25/24 11:08 PM
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100 percent!!! I've been racing Hemi SS cars for over 50 years with no issue. I do use a blanket. There is more chance of blowing your foot off with a street car, than a race car. You overturn the sprag and blow them up by overunning it low gear. Mr hot shot blowing the tires off to impress the kids, put a set of meats on so it hooks and k=pow! NO low gear burnouts, no blowing the tires off it. I use low to leave the starting line, pull it on the trailer, and pull in the garage. If you break a driveshaft or rear, overrev it in low, crawl under it in check it. Use your head, do thing right and respect you equipment and you will have no issue.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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12/26/24 03:58 AM
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thyis happen to me 10 years ago with parts and oil came inside.i had a shield.when it happens its at the line when you take off in 1st
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: dart games]
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12/26/24 06:58 AM
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thyis happen to me 10 years ago with parts and oil came inside.i had a shield.when it happens its at the line when you take off in 1st ^^^Scary Sh!t there!!!^^^
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: racerx]
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12/26/24 02:50 PM
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I run a SFI bell and an SFI Shield.
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/26/24 07:16 PM
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Buddy of mine had a healthy small block, 904 combo in a Dart. Broke the 8 3/4 under power. Fixed the rear and was out driving the car around. Had a very slight vibration. Called me and said he was going to the track and whether I though it would be OK. I told him to take it out and bring it to me. He said it drives fine. I said bring it to me.
Half the springs were crushed and the rollers were loose in the thing. Half the rollers were functioning well enough to drive the car around. Would not have survived the first hit. No idea what valve body was in it other than it was a manual.
A failed roller clutch doesn't necessarily mean the car won't move. And in a 727 with a stock drum, it would be a ticking bomb.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: gch]
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12/27/24 07:55 PM
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I'd switch to a th400 or powerglide before I'd run a blanket or shield again. Blanket is a nightmare with melted straps and acting like a sponge, and the shield is pricey. I'd do the above with a billet drum and proper VB on anything that's going to rev.
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Re: 727 trans explosion protection
[Re: A39Coronet]
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12/27/24 11:03 PM
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I'd switch to a th400 or powerglide before I'd run a blanket or shield again. Blanket is a nightmare with melted straps and acting like a sponge, and the shield is pricey. I'd do the above with a billet drum and proper VB on anything that's going to rev. My thoughts; A Turbo 400 can spit a drum as well. Just happens at the stripe instead of the starting line. TCI shield is less than $300. If nothing leaks there is nothing to absorb when using a blanket. Doug
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