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70 Charger Headlight Motor Details #3277402
12/21/24 09:12 AM
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Hey guys, looking for a little help as I am no Charger expert but helping a friend rebuilding a motor.
I’m OK on the functionality but would like to get a few things cleared up on details.

Many motors I’ve seen restored have a flat tip pan screws in the 5 locations that cover the gears, the motor I was given has Phillips head screws as do many I see unrestored for sale in EBay. Guessing this is a year thing but ??

Doing a search I found some old images from Jules (so my confidence is high) that show what’s painted or not.
-Are the 2 screws in the winding barrel really not painted black with the barrel?
-Why are the wires colors varying? And shouldn’t they have what looks like a heat shrink or rubber tube over the wires? (ref the yellow, red, and green wires).
-The wire clamp that holds the connection, is that supposed to be painted or left as bright zinc?
-The manual turn knob, painted or Zinc Phosphate?
-And finally, the motor cover plate (side of manual knob) is that bright zinc or bare?

Based on the one I was given it’s difficult to make out what finishes were on any of it (was pretty bad to start, but certainly appeared unmolested). It’s got the smaller manual turn knob as well

Here are some images form our friend Jules and a final pic of one done by Stephan (Jules successor)

Thanks for the help.

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Re: 70 Charger Headlight Motor Details [Re: AAR#2] #3277433
12/21/24 11:31 AM
12/21/24 11:31 AM
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This link is to an NOS motor that will give you a good idea of how they were made:Link

Certainly some differences over the years.


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Re: 70 Charger Headlight Motor Details [Re: 70gtx440dana] #3277445
12/21/24 12:40 PM
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That one may be NOS but appears it way have been made in 1978, and certainly adds to so many questions I have.

I certainly don’t know enough about the Charger platform but I know MOPAR well enough to know that NOS and factory installed original can vary more than a bit

Appreciate the link, still good to see and a great ref

Re: 70 Charger Headlight Motor Details [Re: AAR#2] #3277455
12/21/24 02:13 PM
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I have an NOS motor on my 70 Charger R/T. I will see if I can get a few photos of it.


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Re: 70 Charger Headlight Motor Details [Re: 70gtx440dana] #3277555
12/22/24 05:13 AM
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Had mine restored by Bill Meerholz but I’ve got one still on the header frame of a 70 Charger at the shop. I can look in a few minutes.







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