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Trans cooler duct out of scrap #3274466
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Instead of adding a cooler fan . Decided to duct between the radiator and the cooler. Had some left over aluminum from a prevous trailer repair. Made a homemade brake using a press and some 2" steel blocks. Broke out the square cardboard, siccors, tin snips . And not to forget. The trusty $15 Harbor Frieght electric shear. Took awhile to make templates as the car is all together. Now it'll pull air without vehicle movement. Hopefully this helps when you have to make 3 runs in less than an hour.
Doug

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Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: dvw] #3274553
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Crafty! But that's going to add 1/2 pound to the front of the car!

Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: HardcoreB] #3274565
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Originally Posted by HardcoreB
Crafty! But that's going to add 1/2 pound to the front of the car!


LOL, Beautiful work!

On a more serious note, is the new shroud contacting/rubbing on the radiator fins?


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: jbc426] #3274567
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Originally Posted by jbc426
Originally Posted by HardcoreB
Crafty! But that's going to add 1/2 pound to the front of the car!


LOL, Beautiful work!

On a more serious note, is the new shroud contacting/rubbing on the radiator fins?


No it has 3/16" clearance everywhere. I'll monitor it. If it shows any signs of contact. Then the clearance can be increased. Didn't weight it but been using this same aluminum (.030") for fan mounting, fan shrouds, airpans,
It's pretty stiff wihen it has a bend in it.
Doug

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Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: dvw] #3274595
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very nice ! up bow
will you be possibly considering a fan for the cooler in the future ?
beer

Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: moparx] #3274621
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Originally Posted by moparx
very nice ! up bow
will you be possibly considering a fan for the cooler in the future ?
beer


Shouldn't need one. That's why I built the duct. It has a dual fan set up out a late model Charger. On 16 volts you could swear they could pull the car forward.
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Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: dvw] #3274774
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interesting use of the late model charger fan setup.
i am considering that setup [if and] when i build a more potent engine for my charger.
that looks like a good fit and choice.
beer

Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: moparx] #3274803
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Originally Posted by moparx
interesting use of the late model charger fan setup.
i am considering that setup [if and] when i build a more potent engine for my charger.
that looks like a good fit and choice.
beer


Just make sure you don't get the recalled ones.


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Impressive skills, looks awesome!

Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: jbc426] #3274808
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Originally Posted by jbc426
Originally Posted by moparx
interesting use of the late model charger fan setup.
i am considering that setup [if and] when i build a more potent engine for my charger.
that looks like a good fit and choice.
beer


Just make sure you don't get the recalled ones.


Been in the car 13 years.
Doug

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Good to hear. The recall seams to afflict only the late model versions from 2011 to 2016. As with most recalls, there was not a 100% chance of failure.

"According to available information, late model Dodge Chargers from the 2011-2016 model years were subject to a cooling fan recall issued by FCA US LLC (Chrysler), affecting vehicles manufactured between August 23, 2010, and January 7, 2016; you can check your specific vehicle by contacting Chrysler customer service with the recall number "S03".
Key points about the recall:

Affected vehicles: 2011-2016 Dodge Chargers

Issue: Potential problem with the cooling fan motor
Action required: Contact your local Dodge dealer to get the cooling fan inspected and repaired if necessary."


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Re: Trans cooler duct out of scrap [Re: jbc426] #3274974
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how do the aftermarket versions of this fan perform ?
any better than the recalled factory fans ?
beer

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As always, your work is amazing.

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"Not it'll pull air without vehicle movement."

How so. the electrics will pull air when stopped.

Your best "trick" here IMO, adding the cooler's lip spoiler.

Probably a lot of turbulence in that entire area, but regardless you will be ahead of the game as a result of this project. up


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Originally Posted by jcc
"Not it'll pull air without vehicle movement."

How so. the electrics will pull air when stopped.

Your best "trick" here IMO, adding the cooler's lip spoiler.

Probably a lot of turbulence in that entire area, but regardless you will be ahead of the game as a result of this project. up


Typo. corrected

"now it will pull air with no vehicle movement"

Doug

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Nice set up Doug , you made templates ? Gary

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How high were you seeing on your tranny temps?


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Made a couple of templates until it was right. Had a complete taped up cardboard mock up. But even then you're not always sure of the fit. The cardboard is just to flexible. Normally the trans never exceeds 180 degrees. Last year running round Robin at the Summit Park Mopar event we saw 250 degrees.
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what temperature does atf start to break down, 260 or so ?
what is the optimal operating temperature of atf ?
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Originally Posted by moparx
what temperature does atf start to break down, 260 or so ?
what is the optimal operating temperature of atf ?
beer


I remember reading there is degradation observable for every 10F, now if there is a cliff, I don't know if or where.


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