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WiW. Need an estimate for the value #3273522 12/02/24 06:36 AM 12/02/24 06:36 AM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	I went to buy my buddy's car but I don't want to screw him on the price. He is a good friend. It's a 1971 Challenger Convertible 383 4spd with an N96 Shaker. Currently has the factory engine with a 727 in the drive line. Red body, black top, black interior. Original 833 and crankshaft in the garage. What is a FMV price for a ride that's been unmolested... But has been repainted... It's a 6/10 in overall condition Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3273616 12/02/24 12:38 PM 12/02/24 12:38 PM
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SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,386 Someplace you aren't	Sounds like a worn, but nice driver. I’ll venture a guess of around 60-65k. Maybe 70k? I don’t see enough verts to say if there’s a gap to the 70 models. I occasionally see a 383 auto driver for around 50k. I used to think the 70 and 71 cars were equivalent. A couple years ago I saw a price guide and the 71s had a noticeably lower number. I started paying closer attention to ads and I did see the difference. With the hardtops anyway, verts as I said are so scarce. I want my fair share

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3273633 12/02/24 01:08 PM 12/02/24 01:08 PM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,240 New Mexico	So is it an actual factory N96 coded shaker car, and has all it's OEM shaker parts? And it sounds like all the numbers matching driveline is available and goes with the car. 6 out of 10, is it rusty? How solid is it?

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: UCUDANT] #3273744 12/02/24 09:02 PM 12/02/24 09:02 PM
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migsBIG YouTube is my go-to news source Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,868 San Jose,CA	not enough info, pics to give an accurate price. [IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p265/migsbig/Hippo_skull_dark-1.jpg[/IMG]

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: UCUDANT] #3273978 12/04/24 03:46 AM 12/04/24 03:46 AM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	Factory 383 4spd Convertible N96 A US serviceman had brought it to Greece and my friend's father purchased it in 1988 when the servicemember didn't want to lug her back home Pictures below next to my 69 R/T Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3273998 12/04/24 08:42 AM 12/04/24 08:42 AM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,240 New Mexico	Is it TX9 black too? A #'s matching big block, 4spd, drop top, Shaker, RT is going to bring some decent money, if it's also black it only sweetens the deal. The completeness, condition, and originality are the remaining questions. Does it come with the data tag and broadcast sheet (cali built car don't have em)

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: UCUDANT] #3274000 12/04/24 08:54 AM 12/04/24 08:54 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,386 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,386 Someplace you aren't	I thought it was red? Factory? Black would be big time too so whatever. That looks better than 6 out of 10 condition to me. My estimate might move up. Big thing for you is it’s local. That could add many thousands in value. I want my fair share

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: UCUDANT] #3274005 12/04/24 09:11 AM 12/04/24 09:11 AM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,361 St. Louis, Mo	Originally Posted by UCUDANT Is it TX9 black too? A #'s matching big block, 4spd, drop top, Shaker, RT is going to bring some decent money, if it's also black it only sweetens the deal. The completeness, condition, and originality are the remaining questions. Does it come with the data tag and broadcast sheet (cali built car don't have em) No Challenger R/T convertibles in 71

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3274178 12/05/24 07:16 AM 12/05/24 07:16 AM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy I thought it was red? Factory? Black would be big time too so whatever. That looks better than 6 out of 10 condition to me. My estimate might move up. Big thing for you is it’s local. That could add many thousands in value. Not an R/T Has fender tag and broadcast sheets. It was repainted in the 90s to black and silver. Been garage kept and loved but we are the same age and he is more into dirt bikes. I missed the opportunity years ago to purchase a 1970 Challenger R/T 440+6 4spd car locally, Red w/ tan interior . The guy literally outbid me with 8k cash, and a freshly restored 1967 Mustang Last edited by Pyper70; 12/07/24 08:26 AM. Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3274182 12/05/24 08:03 AM 12/05/24 08:03 AM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,240 New Mexico	Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy Big thing for you is it’s local. That could add many thousands in value. Actually just to clarify it's cost/purchase price, not value but we know what you meant

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: UCUDANT] #3274550 12/07/24 08:13 AM 12/07/24 08:13 AM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	So I got a hold of the fender tag and decoded it below There is a 3rd fender tag but its a small one that has "11" written on it and the numbers are inverse of the alphanumeric on the two regular sized fender tags. What does the 11 mean? JH27: Dodge Challenger High Convertible N1B: 383 300HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL 1971 Dodge Main, Hamtramck, MI, USA : Sequence number E65: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 300hp D21: 4 Speed Manual Transmission FE5: Bright Red (Dodge), Rallye Red (Plymouth, Chrysler & Imperial) Exterior Color H6X9: Trim - High, Vinyl Bucket Seats, Black 000: Full Door Panels 922: Build Date: September 22 003034: Order number V3X: Black Convertible Top U: USA Specifications A01: Light Package A31: High Performance Axle Package w/3.91 Ratio A46: Moulding Package A62: Rallye Instrument Cluster Package H51: Air Conditioning with Heater C16: Console w/Woodgrain Panel C55: Bucket Seats G11: Tinted Glass (all) G36: OS Dual Racing Mirrors J25: 3 Speed Wipers J41: Pedal Dress Up J45: Hood Tie Down Pins J46: Locking Gas cap L25: Trunk Lamp M28: Front Bumper Periphery M31: Belt Moldings M42: Front Stone Shield Moldings M44: Hood and Fender Moldings N41: Dual Exhaust N85: Tachometer CTD: Codes Continued on 2nd Fender Tag N96: Fresh Air Hood P31: Power Windows P37: Power Convertible Top R36: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette V6X: Longitudinal Stripes, Black 26: 26in Radiator EM2: Top Color Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3274580 12/07/24 11:05 AM 12/07/24 11:05 AM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 22,025 Enjoy life today, It has an ex...	Shaker hood with factory air ?????? Originally Posted by Pyper70 So I got a hold of the fender tag and decoded it below There is a 3rd fender tag but its a small one that has "11" written on it and the numbers are inverse of the alphanumeric on the two regular sized fender tags. What does the 11 mean? JH27: Dodge Challenger High Convertible N1B: 383 300HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL 1971 Dodge Main, Hamtramck, MI, USA : Sequence number E65: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 300hp D21: 4 Speed Manual Transmission FE5: Bright Red (Dodge), Rallye Red (Plymouth, Chrysler & Imperial) Exterior Color H6X9: Trim - High, Vinyl Bucket Seats, Black 000: Full Door Panels 922: Build Date: September 22 003034: Order number V3X: Black Convertible Top U: USA Specifications A01: Light Package A31: High Performance Axle Package w/3.91 Ratio A46: Moulding Package A62: Rallye Instrument Cluster Package H51: Air Conditioning with Heater C16: Console w/Woodgrain Panel C55: Bucket Seats G11: Tinted Glass (all) G36: OS Dual Racing Mirrors J25: 3 Speed Wipers J41: Pedal Dress Up J45: Hood Tie Down Pins J46: Locking Gas cap L25: Trunk Lamp M28: Front Bumper Periphery M31: Belt Moldings M42: Front Stone Shield Moldings M44: Hood and Fender Moldings N41: Dual Exhaust N85: Tachometer CTD: Codes Continued on 2nd Fender Tag N96: Fresh Air Hood P31: Power Windows P37: Power Convertible Top R36: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette V6X: Longitudinal Stripes, Black 26: 26in Radiator EM2: Top Color Enjoy life today, It has an expiration date

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: gtx6970] #3274590 12/07/24 11:28 AM 12/07/24 11:28 AM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	[quote=gtx6970] Shaker hood with factory air ?????? /quote] I know.. I'm tripping balls with that..I have only seen two convertible cars in my life with factory AC and neither were an N96 Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3274608 12/07/24 12:15 PM 12/07/24 12:15 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 22,025 Enjoy life today, It has an ex...	Originally Posted by Pyper70 [quote=gtx6970] Shaker hood with factory air ?????? /quote] I know.. I'm tripping balls with that..I have only seen two convertible cars in my life with factory AC and neither were an N96 One not avail with the other as far as I know OEM tags ? Enjoy life today, It has an expiration date

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: gtx6970] #3274649 12/07/24 02:03 PM 12/07/24 02:03 PM
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larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 16,345 Central Florida	My original guess with limited info was $40k. I must be in the past. Now if it was a 8 or 9/10 I'd have guessed $60k ish. Facts are stubborn things.

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: larrymopar360] #3274653 12/07/24 02:26 PM 12/07/24 02:26 PM
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topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,973 A collage of whims	Uhhhh, not buying H51 and N96 together on the same car. But E-body 4-speed convertibles, already located where it's convenient for the buyer & friend of the seller - shouldn't be at the bottom of the market. I'd have to confirm condition and validity of options/equipment/tags, but $60,000 may be about top money IMHO.

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: topside] #3274716 12/07/24 07:21 PM 12/07/24 07:21 PM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	Originally Posted by topside Uhhhh, not buying H51 and N96 together on the same car. But E-body 4-speed convertibles, already located where it's convenient for the buyer & friend of the seller - shouldn't be at the bottom of the market. I'd have to confirm condition and validity of options/equipment/tags, but $60,000 may be about top money IMHO. its a great bait tactic to get the fender tag...I still wanna know what the 11 is...is that a dealer installed tag? Maybe its B51? I know it has power brakes... Last edited by Pyper70; 12/07/24 07:25 PM. Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3274726 12/07/24 09:02 PM 12/07/24 09:02 PM
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topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,973 A collage of whims	No, bud, I'm not after the fender tag - I don't collect that info, nor do I do anything nefarious with that stuff or any other documentation - but it doesn't have N96 on it, looks like N85. Haven't seen that "11" tag before - line inspectors usually punched into a flimsy strip attached to the FT. That's a curiosity. No big deal to me either way - I still think it's a pretty cool car.

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: topside] #3274734 12/07/24 10:40 PM 12/07/24 10:40 PM
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Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,932 Athens, Greece	Originally Posted by topside No, bud, I'm not after the fender tag - I don't collect that info, nor do I do anything nefarious with that stuff or any other documentation - but it doesn't have N96 on it, looks like N85. Haven't seen that "11" tag before - line inspectors usually punched into a flimsy strip attached to the FT. That's a curiosity. No big deal to me either way - I still think it's a pretty cool car. Ummm did two fender tags not load into your screen? N96 is clearly stamped in second tag Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: WiW. Need an estimate for the value [Re: Pyper70] #3274738 12/08/24 12:34 AM 12/08/24 12:34 AM
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A990 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,827 541 slobovia	Originally Posted by Pyper70 [quote=gtx6970] Shaker hood with factory air ?????? /quote] I know.. I'm tripping balls with that..I have only seen two convertible cars in my life with factory AC and neither were an N96 The code directly under the screw is looks like B51, This car is pretty well loaded. I wonder how many non RT 71 Challengers were built with N96 that year.

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