Re: Cam/Lifter Failures
[Re: CYACOP]
#3266755
10/27/24 09:06 PM
10/27/24 09:06 PM
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Joined: May 2003
Posts: 6,637 Downtown Roebuck Ont
Twostick
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
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Are these stock heads? they are 1.85 installed. Those springs are too stiff at that height. Stock heads yes. I agree with you but that was what they recommended. Check the pressure of those springs to verify they match the spec for that part number. Just because it says 911 on the box, doesn't guarantee the spring in the box is 911. As my late machinist used to say, "if it comes out of a box, it's fk'd up". Kevin
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Re: Cam/Lifter Failures
[Re: B1MAXX]
#3266927
10/28/24 06:26 PM
10/28/24 06:26 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,970 SW Fla.
CYACOP
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Why not use the purple shaft with the correct springs.and save yourself 1500 bucks.
You lost the cam due to the springs used. I think so too.
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Re: Cam/Lifter Failures
[Re: B1MAXX]
#3267017
10/29/24 08:35 AM
10/29/24 08:35 AM
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Posts: 13,523 Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
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Not trying to argue, just stating my experience...I've built 3 BB Mopars in the past few years using hyd. flat tappet cams. All using the Comp 911 springs on stock heads w/ 1.88" installed height. All have been fine. One was an old MP 509/292 cam. One was a custom nitrided grind from Dwayne Porter. One was the Summit 6401 cam.
I don't know what the answer is to a lot of these cam and lifter failures. I've seen them fail when everything was done "right".
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Cam/Lifter Failures
[Re: CYACOP]
#3267099
10/29/24 04:31 PM
10/29/24 04:31 PM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,627 Rittman Ohio
fourgearsavoy
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My last solid flat cam was a Howards nitrided of the shelf cam with EDM lifters. I switched to a smaller solid roller from Isky and sold the flat cam to another member here It is still in use as far as I know in another big block. I only use Gibbs Driven BR series oil. Gus
64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60
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Re: Cam/Lifter Failures
[Re: moparx]
#3267215
10/30/24 11:42 AM
10/30/24 11:42 AM
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Posts: 4,652 Motor City
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It's a combination of today's materials being used and today's spec low zinc oils that causes the issues with f.t. cams and lifters. The last several f.t. cams engines that I have built I always break in with the outer springs only. After break in, I add the inner/damper springs. Never any issues thus far. One engine has 54,000 miles on it and another six pack engine in my car has over 65,000 on it. Paying for the extra nitride process on the cam helps also.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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