Re: Tunnel Ram
[Re: slomoshun]
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10/20/24 10:14 PM
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Neil
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A tunnel ram with only one carburetor? Seen an Engine Masters video where the single carb on a vintage tunnel ram was shown to be a less than a great idea. Difficult to get the AF ratios on all 8 cylinders to be on the same page was the issue they had with it from memory
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Re: Tunnel Ram
[Re: slomoshun]
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10/22/24 07:01 AM
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596 cu in 572-13 heads my question is is there any horsepower gain going from a 3x intake with 2 inch spacer to a tunnel Ram. Have to Run a single 4 barrel carb. If so how much gain In a word...NO. There are improvements in having the 3x professionally ported but, it works really well overall. You might gain something having a sheetmetal intake done being it's pretty large CID but, you can make over 1100 with a 3x.
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Re: Tunnel Ram
[Re: HardcoreB]
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10/22/24 07:42 AM
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596 cu in 572-13 heads my question is is there any horsepower gain going from a 3x intake with 2 inch spacer to a tunnel Ram. Have to Run a single 4 barrel carb. If so how much gain In a word...NO. There are improvements in having the 3x professionally ported but, it works really well overall. You might gain something having a sheetmetal intake done being it's pretty large CID but, you can make over 1100 with a 3x. Sean, since i have a Wilson ported 3x, that raises the question of any advantage going to an Indy tunnelram and two terminaters versus my single terminater/ported 3x?
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Re: Tunnel Ram
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10/22/24 10:07 AM
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596 cu in 572-13 heads my question is is there any horsepower gain going from a 3x intake with 2 inch spacer to a tunnel Ram. Have to Run a single 4 barrel carb. If so how much gain In a word...NO. There are improvements in having the 3x professionally ported but, it works really well overall. You might gain something having a sheetmetal intake done being it's pretty large CID but, you can make over 1100 with a 3x. We've ran the basically the same mph and only 0.06 quicker in et (best for best) going from a cleaned up 3X to a cleaned up T/R. I think it's over carbed anyway being a mildish 580 with 2 x1150 dominators on it but they look way cool
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Tunnel Ram
[Re: Tig]
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10/22/24 11:11 AM
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FWIW at best comparing a really good single 4 to a good 2x4 tunnel ram you are looking at 30ish HP. If you have a marginal single 4 intake then the gains will be larger. As for going to a single TR if it is done properly with the correct plenum I would think 10-15hp over a good cast single 4. Of course there are other variables and Im talking all out no expense spared stuff. Seen it MANY times on the dyno with SS and Comp stuff
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Re: Tunnel Ram
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10/22/24 02:17 PM
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596 cu in 572-13 heads my question is is there any horsepower gain going from a 3x intake with 2 inch spacer to a tunnel Ram. Have to Run a single 4 barrel carb. If so how much gain In a word...NO. There are improvements in having the 3x professionally ported but, it works really well overall. You might gain something having a sheetmetal intake done being it's pretty large CID but, you can make over 1100 with a 3x. Sean, since i have a Wilson ported 3x, that raises the question of any advantage going to an Indy tunnelram and two terminaters versus my single terminater/ported 3x? Based on the tunnel ram I'm using (I'd guess whatever cast indy is the same) I'd say you'll make more power with the 3x.
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Re: Tunnel Ram
[Re: slomoshun]
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10/23/24 08:13 AM
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What i found using a tunnel ram was the t ram needs to be light weight to really be worth it. I may have gained 20-30# using it over a single Dominator on a non t ram intake, so to me the gain in performance was diminished a bit. I use the Indy t ram and it is a chuck of heavy cast aluminum. The street manners of the t ram are really good. Runs clean, no bogs, no stumbles and starts right up and idles on its own when stone cold. Oh, the eye appeal is cool too. I would not bother with a single carb on a t ram. With 2 carbs, every cylinder has its own venture and the air/fuel mix drops straight down into the cylinder without making any sharp turns..
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