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Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models #3255903
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'The issue is faulty intake valves on 2.7- and 3.0-liter engines in 2021–2022 Ford F-150s, Broncos, Explorers, Edges, and the Lincoln Aviator and Nautilus too.'

www.caranddriver.com/news/a62044486...n-nautilus-aviator-engine-failure-recall


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: DaveRS23] #3255929
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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: moparx] #3255943
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Isn’t a 2.7 or 3L engine, even with turbo, small for what’s considered a “work truck”?

Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: BDW] #3256001
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we have two 3.0 diesel "duramax" ..lol pickups , the biggest POS's one could own, always broke down and in the shop


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: BDW] #3256004
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Originally Posted by BDW
Isn’t a 2.7 or 3L engine, even with turbo, small for what’s considered a “work truck”?


GM standard engine in 1/2 tons are 2.7 turbo. Ram had the 3.6 as standard for years...not sure what they're using now. V8 pickups are quickly becoming unicorns

Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: bigdad] #3256012
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Originally Posted by bigdad
we have two 3.0 diesel "duramax" ..lol pickups , the biggest POS's one could own, always broke down and in the shop


I think that is the engine that has a belt driven oil pump. All inside the engine of course, not external.


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: DaveRS23] #3256022
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It's a "Voluntary" recall and on that note it is big of manufactures to do this. They or any other manufacture that does a VOLUNTARY recall and doesn't try to hide or avoid correcting a safety issue is a good thing and not a bad thing. And before it comes to action (which sometimes takes months shock ) NHTSA has to approve the fix even if the manufacture has the fix, parts, solution ready and available. NHTSA is sometimes the "bad guy" and not the manufacture. Kudos to manufactures that do VOLUNTARY safety recalls without being forced to.

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NHTSA was on it. So Ford could see what was coming. While it wasn't a Ford production part that was the source of the problem, it is more than a bit surprising that their quality control didn't catch the defect for 6 months.

'According to the chronology documents it submitted to NHTSA, Ford said an investigation began back in January 2022 following 22 instances of engine failure after three months or less involving Lincoln Aviator and Nautilus models equipped with the 2.7- or 3.0-liter EcoBoost engines. The investigation found that the catastrophic damage was caused by engine intake valves that fractured and fell into the combustion chamber. It was revealed that the material the valve supplier used was not up to specification, but the valve's robustness was improved starting on models built after October 31, 2021.

The following year, Ford investigated intake-valve fractures on 2021 Bronco models and found 251 instances of the issue during warranty repairs. NHTSA then opened a "Defect Petition" in May 2022 as a result of increasing complaints from Bronco customers. Ford responded to NTHSA in January 2024, noting that there was a "higher than ambient level of repairs observed for vehicles produced between May 1 and October 31, 2021."


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: DaveRS23] #3256075
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I will never buy another "new" Ford product. About 7 years ago, I bought my wife a 2013 Edge with the 3.5L. LOTS of really STRANGE & some serious problems. Finally when the brakes went OUT, that was the final straw. Ford said "well - it's probably the ABS proportioning block, & even if we put a new one in, that may not fix the problem. We don't know how to fix the problem." That was all I needed to hear.


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3256082
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
I will never buy another "new" Ford product. About 7 years ago, I bought my wife a 2013 Edge with the 3.5L. LOTS of really STRANGE & some serious problems. Finally when the brakes went OUT, that was the final straw. Ford said "well - it's probably the ABS proportioning block, & even if we put a new one in, that may not fix the problem. We don't know how to fix the problem." That was all I needed to hear.


As usual...I'll be on the flip side. I have a '13 F150 4x4 FX4 5.0 and a '14 Fusion Titanium 2.0/turbo and a '18 Mustang GT convert 5.0. All have been spot on. The F150 and Fusion have needed nothing but oil and filters/brakes/battery and tires in 70K miles. The Mustang is a toy so 25k miles with zero issues,,,,,it will need tires next year.

If Chrsyler would offer anything close I would consider but they don't. Zero 4 door sedan options, zero convertible options. Local dealers wanted nothing to do with me when looking at trucks in '13.....so off I went to Fords. At this point I have no reason to look elsewhere.

Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3256086
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
I will never buy another "new" Ford product. About 7 years ago, I bought my wife a 2013 Edge with the 3.5L. LOTS of really STRANGE & some serious problems. Finally when the brakes went OUT, that was the final straw. Ford said "well - it's probably the ABS proportioning block, & even if we put a new one in, that may not fix the problem. We don't know how to fix the problem." That was all I needed to hear.


Did you get that in writing? I can't believe any manufacture or dealer would make a statement like that especially concerning the most major safety system on a vehicle the BRAKES! I would have had that recorded and in writing and then gone to NHTSA and asked for my money back in full plus extra for your hardship and Trama for fear of the brake system failing and possible injury or DEATH!

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Originally Posted by BDW
Isn’t a 2.7 or 3L engine, even with turbo, small for what’s considered a “work truck”?


All they are doing is boosting them to the moon to make V8 level power. A 3.0L at just 15lbs boost uses the same air and fuel as a 6.0L and most of them are boosted over 22psi. I think the hurricane is 28spi boost, the fords can't be much different

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The little ecoboosts have always blown up here and there. You'd hear about good ones too, but the bad ones were talked about more.

At the car companies, the folks who fix these sort of problems are practically never the ones who allowed the problem to happen on their watch.

The folks who signed off on whatever the problem is, are charged with developing new products and might hear about failures of their past efforts, but
it's never their job to respond to them or really do anything. They might answer a few questions, or privately tell the poor engineer in charge of the repair process a story about the
lowest bidder being chosen or similar, but that's about the end of it.

Gee Whiz, what could be broken in this system???? It's super duper mysterious and nobody will ever figure it out laugh2








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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: A12] #3256155
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Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
I will never buy another "new" Ford product. About 7 years ago, I bought my wife a 2013 Edge with the 3.5L. LOTS of really STRANGE & some serious problems. Finally when the brakes went OUT, that was the final straw. Ford said "well - it's probably the ABS proportioning block, & even if we put a new one in, that may not fix the problem. We don't know how to fix the problem." That was all I needed to hear.


Did you get that in writing? I can't believe any manufacture or dealer would make a statement like that especially concerning the most major safety system on a vehicle the BRAKES! I would have had that recorded and in writing and then gone to NHTSA and asked for my money back in full plus extra for your hardship and Trama for fear of the brake system failing and possible injury or DEATH!


From the service manager's lips to my ears - just telling you what went down. When the factory is engineering & building products the dealers can't fix, then the dealers will eventually toss their hands in the air & tell you this is what we have to work with! I could NEVER work in an environment like that. Sold the Edge & bought my wife a 2018 Grand Cherokee & have had ZERO problems with the Jeep.


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Re: Ford recalls 91,000 Ecoboost models [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3258246
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Ford still using a wet timing belt on that junk?


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