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Wiring a Street/Strip Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
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05/31/24 11:32 AM
05/31/24 11:32 AM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
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So I have been laying low and collecting parts this year because it has not turned out how I expected, and I am all jammed up with life type stuff right now. Only the Lord above knows if I will have this all running this year... I ordered all the right crimpers and such and bought a wire labler to do this right. I bought a Leash street/strip relay board and an appropriate harness from Vincent performance. My question on race car wiring is, I have a switch panel with about 11 wires on it, and an ignition box with 11 wires on it, and I bought 12pin connectors from Painless. I also have a ton of the weather pack connectors. None of them, to me, are any good for any real amperage draw...But should I use the Painless connectors, or should I use the wire strips with screws and spade connectors? I am worried the pins may move around some in the multi connectors and not have positive contact like the screws and spade connectors would...Thoughts? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prf-40012?seid=srese2&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Brands+|+P&utm_term=4581939832705897&utm_content=GSAPI+5ba28fd9454f1 Or https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rfw-tb10 
Last edited by Dragula; 09/02/24 09:48 AM.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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05/31/24 12:26 PM
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moparx
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i have wired several vehicles using the screw connectors you show. they are available in 4,6,8, 10, and 12 place lengths. [at least that's what i have on my shelf] they have taken up to 65 amps without any trouble. i believe they are also available with a snap on clear cover that contains labels to tell which item is connected at each terminal. [which my terminal blocks do not have] however, instead of using open spade terminals, i use the ring style that fit the screw size. i believe the rings give a better connection. just my opinion. your mileage will vary. 
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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06/01/24 08:56 AM
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Why do you feel that the 12 pin connector built by an automotive wiring company isn't up to automotive standards?
Personally I would use it if I were wiring a car and want to be able to disconnect through a firewall or some such
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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06/01/24 07:49 PM
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I am not much of a garage mechanic, but I try and have the tools I need and work on my skills as I go. So this is my attempt at wiring the Cuda the right way after dealing with the mess its been since I got it....Not sure how it will turn out, but there is no turning back now....A nice Dodge Viper would have been so much less work and cheaper in the end.
Last edited by Dragula; 06/01/24 08:36 PM.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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06/03/24 05:33 AM
06/03/24 05:33 AM
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So I have been laying low and collecting parts this year because it has not turned out how I expected, and I am all jammed up with life type stuff right now. Only the Lord above knows if I will have this all running this year... I ordered all the right crimpers and such and bought a wire labler to do this right. I bought a Leash street/strip relay board and an appropriate harness from Vincent performance. My question on race car wiring is, I have a switch panel with about 11 wires on it, and an ignition box with 11 wires on it, and I bought 12pin connectors from Painless. I also have a ton of the weather pack connectors. None of them, to me, are any good for any real amperage draw...But should I use the Painless connectors, or should I use the wire strips with screws and spade connectors? I am worried the pins may move around some in the multi connectors and not have positive contact like the screws and spade connectors would...Thoughts? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prf-40012?seid=srese2&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Brands+|+P&utm_term=4581939832705897&utm_content=GSAPI+5ba28fd9454f1 Or https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rfw-tb10 Looks real nice to me. I like to use Vincent for what he has in stock, good guy.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: moparx]
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09/01/24 04:15 PM
09/01/24 04:15 PM
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Dragula
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Well, I am feeling better and I am starting to pull the wiring out of the car to get it all stripped down, so I can start putting in the new harness...I have a bruise on my chest from the roll bar from leaning on it trying to reach all the stuff in there...Wish I was younger and skinnier...I did get some quotes to have someone else do this, and I was almost shocked. So like most things, that's about all I needed to get my [censored] in gear to give this a try....
Last edited by Dragula; 09/01/24 04:27 PM.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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09/01/24 07:39 PM
09/01/24 07:39 PM
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Can get a couple grand in a simple deal quick, or more, depending on what parts and pieces you use, how much stuff is in the car and how much stuff needs to be made.
And you can buy some crap at Autozone and make it run. At least for awhile. Just depends.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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09/02/24 10:51 AM
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Well, I am feeling better and I am starting to pull the wiring out of the car to get it all stripped down, so I can start putting in the new harness...I have a bruise on my chest from the roll bar from leaning on it trying to reach all the stuff in there...Wish I was younger and skinnier...I did get some quotes to have someone else do this, and I was almost shocked. So like most things, that's about all I needed to get my [censored] in gear to give this a try.... i have been leaning into the trunk of my charger, cleaning up the floor crust and applying raptor bed lining, followed by a cinnamon color rustoleum that closely matches the color of the car, and i can relate to the bruising and discomfort you describe ! ["gettin' old ain't for sissies ! ...... or the most often used other descriptive word.  ] i sprayed the cinnamon color over the raptor lining before it set up, and it appears that my method worked, because after about a week, it is pretty tough to get a mark in the color, unless i try to really hard. my offer still stands if you need some of those screw junction blocks for your new wiring.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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09/02/24 07:05 PM
09/02/24 07:05 PM
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Would you use the 12 pin connectors though? None of the circuits I am running thru them will be any real amperage, but I do not feel they are up to automotive standards. The best stuff to use for amperage is the newer Metripack connectors. Metripack 150 is the most common for lower amp stuff but you can step up to the Metripack 250 for higher amps. WeatherPack gets really bulky for the bigger connectors.
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: AndyF]
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09/02/24 11:27 PM
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Would you use the 12 pin connectors though? None of the circuits I am running thru them will be any real amperage, but I do not feel they are up to automotive standards. The best stuff to use for amperage is the newer Metripack connectors. Metripack 150 is the most common for lower amp stuff but you can step up to the Metripack 250 for higher amps. WeatherPack gets really bulky for the bigger connectors. You like those better the the Deutsch connectors?
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: mopowers]
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09/03/24 10:52 AM
09/03/24 10:52 AM
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Dragula
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Would you use the 12 pin connectors though? None of the circuits I am running thru them will be any real amperage, but I do not feel they are up to automotive standards. The best stuff to use for amperage is the newer Metripack connectors. Metripack 150 is the most common for lower amp stuff but you can step up to the Metripack 250 for higher amps. WeatherPack gets really bulky for the bigger connectors. You like those better the the Deutsch connectors? Honestly, I have never used the Deutsch connectors. Call it lack of experience. I am not liking the style I have that much. I think they are called Weather Pack...They are junky... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900404
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Re: Wiring a Race Car Q: (and maybe a build thread)
[Re: Dragula]
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09/04/24 11:20 AM
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those are quite bulky, and i believe you are correct, weather pack. i have robbed newer style connectors from late model mopar wiring harnesses, then bought new terminal ends [the deutsch style] and used those connectors on several wiring harnesses i have assembled over the years. just make sure to use a quality crimping tool, and not one of those parts store specials that come with a 10,000 piece terminal kit for $9.99..........
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