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Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: 340Cuda] #3254598
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
I think it was 2019 when Brett Miller and Brad Bowers ran Drag Week. I think it was Brad's Dart and Brett's old Engine Masters Motor which I think was R3W8. They won their class.

That same year someone was running an R5p7 motor in another class, it was a stick shift with some engine setback.

I don't remember the times but I think on most if not days the W8 motor was faster.

If anyone else has more details please chime in.





The Dart was super modified and had to run in unlimited, but it had a stick shift small block running 9.20's in it....Was my favorite that year. The sound and performance were awesome.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: Dragula] #3254611
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A BBM engine will probably be cheaper to build, but you'd probably have to go with Predator head to have any chance of making decent power.

Big inch P7 headed engine is going to take a Ritter XR2 block or a EEI block. I don't believe that EEI are making the blocks anymore, although there was one for sale in one of the Facebook groups.

One of the tricks in getting them to live, is the rocker change for the long drive. Many people will swap out the rockers for sets with a 1.2-1.3:1 ratio

Best of luck with whatever you choose to do.


Alan Jones
Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: ksj] #3254747
08/30/24 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ksj
Originally Posted by 340Cuda
I think it was 2019 when Brett Miller and Brad Bowers ran Drag Week. I think it was Brad's Dart and Brett's old Engine Masters Motor which I think was R3W8. They won their class.

That same year someone was running an R5p7 motor in another class, it was a stick shift with some engine setback.

I don't remember the times but I think on most if not days the W8 motor was faster.

If anyone else has more details please chime in.


R5P7 was a 69 Dart from Sweden wasnt it? Old school paint. Red and white I think. I remember it being a three pedal car.


Yes that sounds correct.
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Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: 340Cuda] #3254906
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My 2¢, build a very large mild motor, if you use a roller cam ask for gentle ramps that don't beat the valve train to death.

Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: quickd100] #3255504
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Originally Posted by quickd100
My 2¢, build a very large mild motor, if you use a roller cam ask for gentle ramps that don't beat the valve train to death.


If you want to run Drag Week, and be competitive, you do NOT build a mild engine. Mild doesn't get you on the podium.


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Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: JERICOGTX] #3255505
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My Cuda was/is built for Drag and Drive, I went the big cubes route with a 605 Hemi...The first couple of iterations, had oiling issues. Ate a couple of rod bearings on the first one, went to a bigger pan. Second one was eating valve springs on long drives, built spray bars & 3qrt accumulator to keep those happy along with a milder cam with milder ramps. I am on my third Hemi iteration, but this one is untested, but feels real healthy. Need to re-wire the car, and add some cage and its going to be a perfect car for drag and drive events with mild 3.73 gear and big tires that I can swap to 315 drag radial for racing which is 2" shorter than the road tires, and will help the gear ratio out. I keep having wiring issues, and its time to fix the 50 year old mess.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: JERICOGTX] #3255530
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by quickd100
My 2¢, build a very large mild motor, if you use a roller cam ask for gentle ramps that don't beat the valve train to death.


If you want to run Drag Week, and be competitive, you do NOT build a mild engine. Mild doesn't get you on the podium.


Some of these guys don't play around. New NA Combo this year for Scott Miller

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Re: Drag n Drive build normally aspirated [Re: Bad340fish] #3255551
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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by quickd100
My 2¢, build a very large mild motor, if you use a roller cam ask for gentle ramps that don't beat the valve train to death.


If you want to run Drag Week, and be competitive, you do NOT build a mild engine. Mild doesn't get you on the podium.


Some of these guys don't play around. New NA Combo this year for Scott Miller






Tabscott is no different in the Small Block class, with 1" lift, and a 6500 convertor. Kurt Anderson with the BBC Fox body Mustang was no different. He had the field covered by one second, in 2016, and that wasn't good enough for him...


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