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Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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Just wondering if anyone knows if he still has the car? Always liked that one. He was/is from the Chicago area if I recall correctly.
A quick google search didn't turn up much.
He used to run the King of the Street series back in the day. Yellow '69 super bee, convo pro wheels, Indy headed BB, pretty sure it had nitrous.
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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Just wondering if anyone knows if he still has the car? Always liked that one. He was/is from the Chicago area if I recall correctly.
A quick google search didn't turn up much.
He used to run the King of the Street series back in the day. Yellow '69 super bee, convo pro wheels, Indy headed BB, pretty sure it had nitrous. One of my favorite cars!
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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I'm sure I threw away all of the magazines I had with pictures of it; also find it odd I can't find any images online trying various search criteria 
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/26/24 04:09 PM
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Thanks for the update OUTLAWSSAA! I was just curious about it. It's one of the cars that hasn't been seen out anywhere I guess.
I kept all my old magazines w/ pics of the KOS cars. There's a good wheelie pic of Rob's bee in the 727 rebuild book I have.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/27/24 07:06 PM
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I also have the owner of the Chapman KOS super bee living about 5 minutes from me. Last time I talked to him (years ago) he was putting a blower motor together for it. Did he ever get it done? I think it was on hold for kids college.
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 06:43 AM
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I also have the owner of the Chapman KOS super bee living about 5 minutes from me. That was the KOS Bee I remembered.
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 09:39 AM
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I also have the owner of the Chapman KOS super bee living about 5 minutes from me. Yes, Fred B. I talked w/ him at Rockingham several years ago...may have been over 10 years ago now. Nice guy, his screen name here was "beekeeper", or something like that. I know it was for sale not too long ago. Had a B1 headed big block w/ some nitrous. He was asking around 60k for it if I recall correctly.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 11:09 AM
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This one I don't remember, need pic. I haven't been able to find a pic online of Rob's Bee. I'll take a pic of some I have at home and post it.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 12:11 PM
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I also have the owner of the Chapman KOS super bee living about 5 minutes from me. Yes, Fred B. I talked w/ him at Rockingham several years ago...may have been over 10 years ago now. Nice guy, his screen name here was "beekeeper", or something like that. I know it was for sale not too long ago. Had a B1 headed big block w/ some nitrous. He was asking around 60k for it if I recall correctly. IIRC, when the ex-Chapman was for sale, it wasn't really the same car... had a lot of chassis mods and other stuff that took away from what it represented as a KOS car "way back when"... but the guy still wanted top $ because of the car's history... which it didn't really reflect any longer... IMO, naturally 
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 12:37 PM
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I also have the owner of the Chapman KOS super bee living about 5 minutes from me. Yes, Fred B. I talked w/ him at Rockingham several years ago...may have been over 10 years ago now. Nice guy, his screen name here was "beekeeper", or something like that. I know it was for sale not too long ago. Had a B1 headed big block w/ some nitrous. He was asking around 60k for it if I recall correctly. IIRC, when the ex-Chapman was for sale, it wasn't really the same car... had a lot of chassis mods and other stuff that took away from what it represented as a KOS car "way back when"... but the guy still wanted top $ because of the car's history... which it didn't really reflect any longer... IMO, naturally The only thing that was different, was a 4 link was installed, in place of the Super Stock Springs. Otherwise it looks identical to it's KOS days.
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 01:07 PM
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The only thing that was different, was a 4 link was installed, in place of the Super Stock Springs. Otherwise it looks identical to it's KOS days.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but doesn't a 4-link conversion require some level of "cutting up" the car? Maybe it's less of an effort than I realize and switching it back wouldn't be a big deal. Thx Regardless, that car's fame was being a naturally-aspirated, full-bodied, leaf-spring car running on 10" tires. Just feels to me that going in a different direction takes it away from what made it so memorable. 
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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07/29/24 02:47 PM
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For anyone interested...there's a guy on youtube with a bunch of KOS videos from Englishtown from the '90s. Some aren't the best quality, but shows a lot of the old KOS races. Search his videos for "mopar etown". A lot are titled Indy head shootout...guess that was before they called it KOS? There are many more than the one I linked below. https://youtu.be/iItS0m-j2gk?si=V6NXRgYyPojGM7JN
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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The only thing that was different, was a 4 link was installed, in place of the Super Stock Springs. Otherwise it looks identical to it's KOS days.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but doesn't a 4-link conversion require some level of "cutting up" the car? Maybe it's less of an effort than I realize and switching it back wouldn't be a big deal. Thx Regardless, that car's fame was being a naturally-aspirated, full-bodied, leaf-spring car running on 10" tires. Just feels to me that going in a different direction takes it away from what made it so memorable. It's a race car. Race cars evolve over the years. I think Fred got tired of wrecking leaf springs every time out. If done right, putting in a 4 link on't butcher the car up to the point it couldn't be returned to stock.
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Re: Rob Sylvester's KOS '69 super bee?
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Good info, thx. I hadn't been aware of everything that had been done to the car over the years and am probably guilty of still thinking about it in the context of that 1995 Hot Rod "Pump-Gas Big-Block Shootout" version: https://www.motortrend.com/features/title-bout-the-rematch-its-time-to-race-july-1995-982-1544-24-1/
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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