Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Dart Gen III block available? #3239713
06/21/24 11:10 AM
06/21/24 11:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,897
Spahn Ranch
RMCHRGR Offline OP
top fuel
RMCHRGR  Offline OP
top fuel

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,897
Spahn Ranch
Not sure if this is old news but seems like the Dart Gen III block is finally available. Splayed main caps but still looks promising.

See the FB post below.

Dart Gen III block

Nothing listed on the Dart webpage yet, only a placeholder but the comments in the post say they can be ordered from Dart dealers. Currently a 4-month lead time.

Dart Gen III block.jpg

'71 Duster
'72 Challenger
'17 Ram 1500
Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: RMCHRGR] #3239831
06/21/24 09:05 PM
06/21/24 09:05 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,481
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,481
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
I would very much like one....What does pricing look like?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: Dragula] #3239878
06/22/24 07:37 AM
06/22/24 07:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,124
MD
RTSE4ME Offline
top fuel
RTSE4ME  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,124
MD
$5500

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: RTSE4ME] #3240087
06/23/24 01:17 PM
06/23/24 01:17 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,481
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,481
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Well, that's not cheap....But the extra cubes would be nice...Does anyone recall how big they can build it? I remember 473 cubes is the biggest the normal way, and from there it needs a very special thrust bearing setup and crank to go 500 cubes.

Anyone got more info?

Last edited by Dragula; 06/23/24 09:41 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: Dragula] #3240216
06/24/24 05:24 AM
06/24/24 05:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
STEFF Offline
master
STEFF  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
Originally Posted by Dragula
Well, that's not cheap....But the extra cubes would be nice...Does anyone recall how big they can build it? I remember 473 cubes is the biggest the normal way, and from there it needs a very special thrust bearing setup and crank to go 500 cubes.

Anyone got more info?


4.25 x 4.25

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: STEFF] #3240581
06/25/24 09:12 PM
06/25/24 09:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,897
Spahn Ranch
RMCHRGR Offline OP
top fuel
RMCHRGR  Offline OP
top fuel

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,897
Spahn Ranch
Originally Posted by STEFF
4.25 x 4.25


Didn't realize that was your post but put it together reading the comments. What's the goal with it?


'71 Duster
'72 Challenger
'17 Ram 1500
Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: RMCHRGR] #3240622
06/26/24 05:31 AM
06/26/24 05:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
STEFF Offline
master
STEFF  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
Originally Posted by RMCHRGR
Originally Posted by STEFF
4.25 x 4.25


Didn't realize that was your post but put it together reading the comments. What's the goal with it?


It's ll good. Plan is to make it either 431 or 442" and put a Procharger on it, F3D-106. Or, maybe a Roots Blower. The Dart block is too beastly to just build an NA combo.

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: STEFF] #3241556
06/30/24 06:20 PM
06/30/24 06:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,279
PA.
pittsburghracer Offline
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Offline
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,279
PA.


Facebook find today on weight

IMG_3431.jpeg

1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3241644
07/01/24 04:01 AM
07/01/24 04:01 AM
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 1,356
Nor here, Nor there
D
Dart 500 Offline
pro stock
Dart 500  Offline
pro stock
D

Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 1,356
Nor here, Nor there
I assume thats the hellcat/BGE block but they did make a lighter one for the cars up until 2016 or 2017 (not as strong) when they all just used the hellcat/BGE for everything 6.4 or 6.2

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: Dart 500] #3241647
07/01/24 05:38 AM
07/01/24 05:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
STEFF Offline
master
STEFF  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,890
Smyrna, South Carolina
Originally Posted by Dart 500
I assume thats the hellcat/BGE block but they did make a lighter one for the cars up until 2016 or 2017 (not as strong) when they all just used the hellcat/BGE for everything 6.4 or 6.2


It's a 6.4 Block I've been using since 2012. I do have to make a revision to the Stock Block weight as I mistakenly forgot to include the Main Caps and Studs.

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: RMCHRGR] #3248947
08/02/24 09:24 AM
08/02/24 09:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 14
Quakertown PA
T
Tay Offline
member
Tay  Offline
member
T

Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 14
Quakertown PA
they are Nice piece ,

Non VVT block, 9.25 DH, with 4.25 , 4.30 Winberg crank, 1.88 pin, needed to clear the pan rail . (488ci) 6.1(c to c) rods, 1.0 Race tech Pistons, (put the piston .003 above deck in operation) 11 to 1 compression, 2.20 intake valve cleaned the bowl to match, then port matched to Drag pak intake , but other wise stock Apache heads, rockers arms and OEM lifters (for now) Purrs like kitten with cam motion GRIND# XA220/360 , may only be 1.65 Hp/CI at this point , but its' less than .600 lift cam and will idle for hours. bottom 2 inches of the water jacket are Hard blocked just for some add insurance against the god awful 1.42 Rod ratio.

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: Tay] #3249111
08/02/24 09:48 PM
08/02/24 09:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,275
Canada
WO23Coronet Offline
master
WO23Coronet  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,275
Canada
Originally Posted by Tay
they are Nice piece ,

Non VVT block, 9.25 DH, with 4.25 , 4.30 Winberg crank, 1.88 pin, needed to clear the pan rail . (488ci) 6.1(c to c) rods, 1.0 Race tech Pistons, (put the piston .003 above deck in operation) 11 to 1 compression, 2.20 intake valve cleaned the bowl to match, then port matched to Drag pak intake , but other wise stock Apache heads, rockers arms and OEM lifters (for now) Purrs like kitten with cam motion GRIND# XA220/360 , may only be 1.65 Hp/CI at this point , but its' less than .600 lift cam and will idle for hours. bottom 2 inches of the water jacket are Hard blocked just for some add insurance against the god awful 1.42 Rod ratio.


It makes 800hp with a 220/227@.050 cam?

Re: Dart Gen III block available? [Re: WO23Coronet] #3249973
08/07/24 07:20 AM
08/07/24 07:20 AM
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 14
Quakertown PA
T
Tay Offline
member
Tay  Offline
member
T

Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 14
Quakertown PA
Originally Posted by WO23Coronet
Originally Posted by Tay
they are Nice piece ,

Non VVT block, 9.25 DH, with 4.25 , 4.30 Winberg crank, 1.88 pin, needed to clear the pan rail . (488ci) 6.1(c to c) rods, 1.0 Race tech Pistons, (put the piston .003 above deck in operation) 11 to 1 compression, 2.20 intake valve cleaned the bowl to match, then port matched to Drag pak intake , but other wise stock Apache heads, rockers arms and OEM lifters (for now) Purrs like kitten with cam motion GRIND# XA220/360 , may only be 1.65 Hp/CI at this point , but its' less than .600 lift cam and will idle for hours. bottom 2 inches of the water jacket are Hard blocked just for some add insurance against the god awful 1.42 Rod ratio.


It makes 800hp with a 220/227@.050 cam?


typo, my bad 1.55/Hp/Ci(760hp, 9.20s@142-146MPH 2950 race weight Duster on 93oct ) ......keys are 2.20Intake valve/ bowl work and drag pak intake & Nick Williams 108mm tb , 1.35hp with out of the box Apache Heads/6.4SRT intake and OEM TB.







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1