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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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06/05/24 03:48 PM
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Yeah chip I think your Right, the car's so light I think they won't even wear that badly.
Chip how much does the Cuda Weigh? Do you have an aluminum block?
I actaully thought about spraying the Rocky, I set the ring gap and an extra .0005 P/W for at least a 250 shot. Have to tighten the vert up a bit though.
it'd be cool cruising with like a 3.54 gear and go back to the 30" tires though. I might even get decent mileage as light as it is.
At Rockingham in April it was 3765 lbs with me in it and really low on gas. Yes, it is an aluminum block. Cruising is nicer w/ the 3.54 gears instead of 4.10s.. Wow, mine is 3470 with an iron block and me in it.....
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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06/05/24 08:24 PM
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10.7 CR pump 93 E10 fuel
275/60R15 drag radials & 4.10s = 3500 RPM at 65 MPH... bring ear plugs
full 3" exhaust
4500-stall converter
3700+ lbs w/ driver... Not a 'Race Car' here, rather the opposite: street car with some track time, so for what it's worth: 10.5 CR pump 91 E10 fuel 240/248 hydraulic roller on 112 LSA, W2 408 stroker 275/60R15 drag radials & 4.10s = 3600 RPM at 65 MPH...love the sound, but yeah, it can be draining... full 3" exhaust 4000-stall converter 3650+ lbs w/ driver...
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/05/24 09:09 PM
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E-85 and a blower or turbo.
Mild street abilities.....beastly performance....
See my "E- 85 is Awesome " post...
70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ!
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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06/05/24 09:30 PM
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I drive my car all over all the time. 11:1 CR, 3.54 gear and 11" converter. Fill up with pump 93 just because it's at a station just down the street. As a funny aside, I fill the supplemental cell under the hood and get lots of strange looks at the pumps! LOL!
I've gotten really lazy and don't even air up the drag radials anymore. They are 18 psi all the time and seem to wear and drive fine at that pressure. I have 3" exhaust and never removed or uncorked it.
I've ran 10.01 @ 133mph in the exact same trim I drove it to work the previous day. Only changes were cracking open the bottle and pulling timing.
It's reasonably quiet, easy to drive and gets 11mpg on the highway. After 9 years together it has all the kinks worked out.
Our store manager is jealous ass hell because he has a BB Corvette that he constantly works on that he tries to drive on the street. It's a slobbering, loud, smelly, uncomfortable pile.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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06/06/24 12:41 AM
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It's reasonably quiet, easy to drive and gets 11mpg on the highway. After 9 years together it has all the kinks worked out.
Our store manager is jealous ass hell because he has a BB Corvette that he constantly works on that he tries to drive on the street. It's a slobbering, loud, smelly, uncomfortable pile. It pays to know how to tune,   HUH
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: AndyF]
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06/06/24 08:55 AM
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Drove my D150 to the track ( 32 miles one way ) on my new drag radials last Sunday .. ran consistent 15.20s.. got down to 3 cars and drove home. I am sure you are talking about much more radical combinations though . BTW fast street cars are cool !!!
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: AndyF]
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06/06/24 08:57 AM
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Depending on your budget you can buy a new car that will run 11's or even 10's and it is a perfect car to drive to the track. AC, PS, PB, leather seats, big sound system, nav system, etc. Andy - Are you trying to turn this into an Old School vs New School debate? 
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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: AndyF]
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Depending on your budget you can buy a new car that will run 11's or even 10's and it is a perfect car to drive to the track. AC, PS, PB, leather seats, big sound system, nav system, etc. I'd rather "roll my own" thanks. The build process, to me, is as much fun as driving.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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06/06/24 02:41 PM
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Depending on your budget you can buy a new car that will run 11's or even 10's and it is a perfect car to drive to the track. AC, PS, PB, leather seats, big sound system, nav system, etc. I'd rather "roll my own" thanks. The build process, to me, is as much fun as driving. Agreed. I will have owned my car for 30 years as of 6/23 and I wouldn't trade it for a modern muscle car at all.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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06/06/24 02:52 PM
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I have always driven dozens of my cars to and from the track over the years. I could drive my Challenger to the track as I street drive it all over. It is a pump gas 528" Hemi with 2 kits, 5600 converter on spray, 4:10's on 315 drag radials. However, I just choose to trailer it these day so if it breaks I have a way to get it home.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: 6PKRTSE]
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06/06/24 07:03 PM
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I've always driven my cars on the street, even the Dartsport and the '69 Dart which both ran in the 9's but the only one that was truly streetable was my sassy grass green '72 Duster.
275/60 drag radial, 500" low deck, 10:1 compression, MP 557 cam, Eddy heads, tiny 1.75" headers, 727 with 9.5" converter, 8.75 with 3.23 gears, 3300 pounds.
I drove it to the track a few times, 45 min each way, ran 10.70's with a best of 10.69 at 124mph, and drove it home. Aluminum radiator with mechanical fan, never ran hot at all.
It was a blast! I wish I'd never sold it but a local friend bought it and he loves it.
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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06/06/24 09:33 PM
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Depending on your budget you can buy a new car that will run 11's or even 10's and it is a perfect car to drive to the track. AC, PS, PB, leather seats, big sound system, nav system, etc. Andy - Are you trying to turn this into an Old School vs New School debate? Brad , I have the twin to yours, but not a 1320.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/07/24 11:05 AM
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Ok, in this "modern age" of $4.50/Gal Premium gas ...and 5x more traffic lights on your way back and forth to the track...a couple Questions for those who actually drive the cars they run at the track. I'm assuming no more than uncapping your cut-outs and Changing tires at the track. How much cam/compression/converter stall/gear are you 'comfortable' driving up to 1 1/2 hours EACH WAY? I'm going to convert the rocky to street use, because...to be honest, it's fun having a little jeep that is also a killer street sweeper. It has 11.5:1 a 260/269 @ .050 solid roller, an 8" 5300 stall and (for right now 4.10) gears with 28" Tires. To me the cam is not really that street unfriendly at all, i think it idles better and is snappier than an old 509 Purple shaft in a 10:1 BB or SB. For street use, I'm going down to a 3.54 gear and a full dual 3" exhaust, the converter is loose but the thing only weighs maybe 2700 pounds, plus the aero drag at 70mph really tightens-up the converter as well  i think I can still get by with the cam and compression, the cooling system works really well and the brakes are phenomenal. My only other 'concession' for street driving will be I intend to reinstall the factory swaybar. I just want to hear from people that successfully run things way more "racy" than this. Thanks! I don't drive mine far to the track, only 12-14 miles really. But I have done lots and lots of street driving for Drag Week. You should be fine as is, the sway bar seems like a good idea and if you want to go faster on the highway the gear swap wouldn't hurt. My Barracuda has 4.10s on a 28" tire and cruises around 60-65@3500RPM depending on conditions. 418" small block R1 W2 motor with a big duration high lift solid roller, it is super happy on the highway running 3000-3500RPM. It usually settles in around 200-205* and gets about 13mpg weighing a little over 4000lbs loaded for the road with a passenger. It actually runs a little cooler in traffic and can idle all day long, It is port fuel injected so loading up with fuel or killing plugs is not a worry, but it shouldn't be with a good carb either. You will just have to get it out and try a long drive and see how it does. An extended time on the road is way different than cruising around town or even short highway runs. My motor sounds totally different after hours on the road, thinner oil, much longer heat so things have grown more than a short trip. I usually pull into the hotel with it sounding like it has a 1/4 inch of lash but it always sounds fine the next morning.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/07/24 11:08 PM
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Its subjective to what suits you .
I for years drove my Satellite as a daily driver / strip racer .
For years this was with 5000 , then 6000 stall 4.1 gears 11:1 . Ran on premium pump gas swapped out rear wheels and away i ran into low 10s . Still do occasional drive to local strip - 1 hr ..
However after a couple years driving 11+ hrs on highway the fuel bill became rediculous . So yeah i now have a ute and open trailer .
However i still drive the car to work once or twice a week ..
But my business likes the 50% or more drop in fuel bills plus i now camp at track for multu day events so i save there too .
Tex
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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Like some have said, it's probably a good idea to tow it if you're going that distance in the event something goes bad. Unless you have confidence it's robust in the cooling, fuel, exhaust etc systems. Nothing is going to chaff a wire, this general kinda thing which isn't typical in a budget-built stripper. I'd almost want a mechanical waterpump, quiet exhaust, good radio/GPS/phone, A/C. All this said, if you can live without all the other creature comforts mentioned, might be worth a try occasionally. In the past I build a mid-11 vortech supercharged '89 Mustang and drove it everywhere including the track an hour away. That was fun back then. Having something that 'obnoxious' (at the time) for work and misc jaunts ADDED an element of fun to the car. It'll all do with how well-engineered and executed the build is.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
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Lots of really good advice here. The other part of it is I was just out in Colorado visiting my daughter and there's a bunch of old Jeeps and Old Broncos and Blazers running around...I'm thinking to myself...how cool would it be to just cruise a stroker Mopar powered Mini jeep that weighs about 2700 pounds? Even if I detune the cam and converter (drop it down to a Paltry 525 or so hp) and throw a set of 3.23 or 3.54's in it I bet it would still go deep in the 11's and be perfectly serviceable as a street toy. And I set the ring gap for up to a 250 shot...so there's always that too.
The Rocky is such a clean looking little Jeepster, Unlike a Samuria (which most people assume it is) , the Rocky has a full truck frame that is stronger and lighter and mush more well engineered than a CJ frame.
I was always wanting do build a V8 powered Mitsubishi/Dodge Raider, the Rocky is even smaller and Lighter.
For anybody that remembers....I actually bought the Rocky off of Moparts with a 318 in it. and as you can see, I can pull the motor and trans in about 45 minutes.
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/12/24 08:59 AM
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Don't detune it. Just drive it.
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'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: Driving your Race Car to the track
[Re: Streetwize]
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What is the furthest most drive to a track?
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1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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