Oil & viscosity discussion on Speed-Talk
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This is an ongoing thread on Speed-Talk that I found interesting, especially because it addresses an "Engine Masters" video I remember watching some months back: https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67124
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Oil & viscosity discussion on Speed-Talk
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The remarks about fuel dilution are the ones that resonated with me the most.
It's sort of funny, nobody can seem to tell if this is a good oil or a bad oil, unless they're provided with the brand name.
Rich H.
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Re: Oil & viscosity discussion on Speed-Talk
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It's sort of funny, nobody can seem to tell if this is a good oil or a bad oil, unless they're provided with the brand name. I know a little -- very little -- about oil analysis. Given what I supposedly have learned, I'll take a s(?)wag about it - VI and flash point both "meh"; probably straight petroleum or low-level synthetic blend - ASSuming advertised as 15w50 or 20w50 from the viscosity measurements - typical "old school" phos & zinc levels in the 1000-1200 ppm range - really good HTHS rating, which I've heard used as a good indicator of how well the lube holds up under load - TBN looks middle-of-the-road for street usage, but higher than most "race only" oils It "looks" usable to me (if that weight suited my application), but I wouldn't expect to run it for any extended periods before changing it
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Oil & viscosity discussion on Speed-Talk
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Nice work Brad.
Have to agree with you on all points, does seem to look useable by everything I've tried to pick up.
It is marketed as a "racing oil" as opposed to an extended drain product, and sold as a 20W50.
Rich H.
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Re: Oil & viscosity discussion on Speed-Talk
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I asked a guy in the oil industry one time about additives. His advice to me was not to add anything to the oil and leave that up to the engineers that developed it. This was when the shelf oil was going down hill and all the ZDDP additives were hitting the market. He said the exact same thing as Speed is saying in that video. You think you are helping but most likely will make it worse.
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