Re: If you run a dry sump system, do you need?
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Very few dry sump systems include an accumulator since there is no danger of the system running out of oil. Pre-oiling is easy with a dry sump since you just remove the belt and spin the pump. Spinning the pump works for new engines, or engines that have been sitting a long time. If you want to pre-oil before every start you could hook up a small accumulator to the main gallery with a remote valve. Then you open the valve before starting the engine and close it once you have pressure. I've never seen that done but it would be simple to add if you don't mind the extra complication and expense.
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Re: If you run a dry sump system, do you need?
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I would not bother with the missile system. If you want a dry sump then buy a true dry sump system, not one driven off of the cam gear. No need to accumulator on a true dry sump. Can either take the belt off and spin the pump or you could buy Peterson remote filter mount with a built in primer.
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Re: If you run a dry sump system, do you need?
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I would not bother with the missile system. If you want a dry sump then buy a true dry sump system, not one driven off of the cam gear. No need to accumulator on a true dry sump. Can either take the belt off and spin the pump or you could buy Peterson remote filter mount with a built in primer. Al, Thanks for that tid-bit, I might just get me one of those... Beats pulling the Mag to prime.
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Re: If you run a dry sump system, do you need?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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I would not bother with the missile system. If you want a dry sump then buy a true dry sump system, not one driven off of the cam gear. No need to accumulator on a true dry sump. Can either take the belt off and spin the pump or you could buy Peterson remote filter mount with a built in primer. Good advice, I wouldn’t recommend the Missile either I run Barnes dry sump, also have Peterson remote with Primer, not had any issues with losing a belt, Primer is an excellent acquisition, very pleased. What ever pump you decide, cast iron pressure section if available is a good move
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Re: If you run a dry sump system, do you need?
[Re: Dragula]
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An oil accumulator?
Thinking of building my next BBM engine with a dry sump, do you need an accumulator with a system like that? Another option is a wet sump with a belt driven pump. I ran this setup on a low deck 470 and it worked great. Moroso builds a really nice rear sump dragster type of pan with a AN-20 fitting for the pickup. The Peterson pump is the same as the dry sump pump and it has a fitting on the back so you can drive a vacuum pump off the same belt. So that cleans up the front of the engine a bit.
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