Re: Crank to Cam Lobe Clearance?
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Re: Crank to Cam Lobe Clearance?
[Re: reknapp52]
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Big Mopar engines usually don't encounter cam to rod clearance issues, unlike bow tie engines do. BB Mopars are essentially "raised cam" engines. I built a 622 ci with no cam to rod problems (Koleneo block, 4.600" bore, 4.625" stroke, 2.200" Bill Miller alum rods and a huge solid roller). There were clearance issues, but rod to cam was not one of them. However, you should always check it.
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Re: Crank to Cam Lobe Clearance?
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4.15" won't be any issue, but as Cab said the I have a 4.15" I offset ground to 4.300" and went to a 2.200 journal and I actually would up with MORE Clearance. The issue on BB Mopars is seldom up in the cam tunnel, it' just usually needs Scallops in the Bottom of the bores and usually relieving the area around the Oil pick-up. Usually you only get up in the cam tunnel with a 4.500" or greater stroke combined with a fat shoulder rod. Although I might suspect even a 4.375" combined with an aluminum Rod could cause some issues. Steel H beam rods have cap screws, it's usually the rod bolt heads that cause issues.
I Built a 427" 4.04" bore x 4.17" stroke 351 Windsor for my Cobra Replica about 28 years ago. It used a 4.00 Stroke offset ground to use 340 Mopar Rods, and I had to relieve all 8 of the rod bolt heads on the top side to clear the Cam tunnel....plus I reground the cam for a reduced base circle.... I Also used a Gear drive as well. This was before Steel H beams were a dime a dozen. That one took patience!!
But 28 years later it's still running strong!
If in doubt mock it up and wrap a medium duty Nylon Zip-tie around the cam lobes, if they clear you have .060" minimum.
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Re: Crank to Cam Lobe Clearance?
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I have never had Crank to Cam clearance issues (4.5 stroke in a Hemi Block) B, RB and HEMI Blocks all share the same crank to cam distance of 5.152". You need to check cam lobe to Rod (Aluminum) especially on 3 - 5 - 7.. It is not uncommon to "Nic" the rod to correct this issue. With one set of rods in my KB motor I had clearance, replaced then with a different brand (and HP level) of rods and they hit every where, Swapped them into BAE raised cam block and all is good. The KB block got an equivalent HP rated (to the originals) rod and they hit the cam...So the rods need a little massaging. Typically steel rods don't have this issue.
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Re: Crank to Cam Lobe Clearance?
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If in doubt mock it up and wrap a medium duty Nylon Zip-tie around the cam lobes, if they clear you have .060" minimum.
I like this .learned something new today. Not the way I've been checking it but seems way better Thanks
'01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 '01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust, '05 Dodge Magnum R/T - Too Much to list '60 Willys CJ5 '01 International LPX - Project,DT466, Allison '64 Plymouth Valiant, Inj 528 Hemi, 2spd
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