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I have a part (it's a gear) and I'm uncertain if it is heat treated.
Since I don't know, is there any harm in having it heat treated ?

If it is NOT previously heat treated, then I'm safe.

If it IS in fact already heat treated, then it would be " doubly" heat treated. Is this bad ? Is this even a concern ?

See my question ?

Re: Question about heat treating [Re: hemienvy] #3226895
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Maybe
No
Probably not
But the guy at the heat treat place can answer all of that. It will be a lot easier for him because it will be in his hand.


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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: hemienvy] #3226899
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Gears are usually case hardened, a heat treat facility will have a hardness tester and can advise you. A simple "file test" will usually identify a case-hardened part...if an ordinary file will remove material from the gear, it's not case hardened.


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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: hemienvy] #3226965
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hi

dependes also on what you want to gain

how about cyrogenic treatment.

i am currently waiting on a trsns i sent out to be treated cyrogenic

Re: Question about heat treating [Re: calrobb2000] #3226983
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Originally Posted by calrobb2000
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hi

dependes also on what you want to gain

how about cyrogenic treatment.

i am currently waiting on a trsns i sent out to be treated cyrogenic


Who did you have do the work? I have a T-10 that I'm seriously considering doing this to the gearing.


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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: 6PakBee] #3227007
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sometimes, re-heat treating a part will ruin it.
at work we heat treated a few parts we made in house, and if not done correctly, trying to redo them usually ended up causing the parts to be scrapped because they became very brittle.
as i was not personally involved in the heat treat process, other than machining the parts, i don't know if it was the process used, the guy doing it, or other factors.
just my [very limited] personal experience. your mileage will vary.
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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: moparx] #3227041
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The shop doing thew heat treating should be able to guide you what needs to be done if anything.


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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: hemienvy] #3227057
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What John said WRT to case hardening (carburizing) is most often correct. However, you really need to know what steel grade you have if it needs further heat treatment.

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OK, I took a file to the gear, fairly sharp file. It kind of "marred" the gear surface, maybe took off a VERY slight amount
of surface metal, but I was using pretty light pressure.
But it's definitely harder than angle iron.

Re: Question about heat treating [Re: 6PakBee] #3227128
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hi

should be able to get it done in any decent size city near you .

i found a guy in york pa , 15 miles from me . 717 309 0639

search the net for cyrogenic treatment near you !

Re: Question about heat treating [Re: calrobb2000] #3227158
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Originally Posted by calrobb2000

hi

should be able to get it done in any decent size city near you .

i found a guy in york pa , 15 miles from me . 717 309 0639

search the net for cyrogenic treatment near you !



Thanks for the info. I'm in ND, there is no "decent size city" near me. (of course I guess it depends on what you consider "near", definitely not 15 miles away) grin


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Re: Question about heat treating [Re: hemienvy] #3227180
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A thorough answerer can be better provided with more info. What type of gear is it, what's it indented use etc.?
Heat treating is not "Just" hardening of metal. I suggest you read this HEAT TREATMENT


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