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PCV, EVAC or PUMP #3224689
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At what point did you step up on a street driven BB.
Is Evac usable on the street? would you use a oil catch with the Evac?
Breather on one cover and evac on the opposite side? Or two evac's?

Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 4mopower] #3224742
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I would also like to know, I’m curious if anyone has tried using an OEM vacuum pump a lot of the European cars have? I use a PCV valve on one valve cover and a breather on the other. Definitely use a catch can


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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 4mopower] #3224756
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Originally Posted by 4mopower
At what point did you step up on a street driven BB.
Is Evac usable on the street? would you use a oil catch with the Evac?
Breather on one cover and evac on the opposite side? Or two evac's?



I run an evac on my race/street stroker. It pulls 5 inches at idle. Two breathers, one on each side in valve covers. Been like this for at least twenty years with no issues.
I would guess that a lot would depend on the cam specs. What I have works for my set up very well.

Last edited by 68LAR; 04/03/24 02:22 PM.

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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 4mopower] #3224768
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I run a GZ vacuum pump on the street. Works great, I'm happy with it.


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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: INTMD8] #3224890
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I run a Moroso advanced 4 vane for street/strip use works great also.


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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 4mopower] #3225456
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Looks like a pump is the general choice even on a street car.
I may be looking into that.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 4mopower] #3225667
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I was recently thinking about the evac setup bc I am pushing oil out breathers at higher rpm. However, trying to figure out how Not to kill my o2 sensors in the collectors. So, I put it off for now. Just another thought if you run o2 sensors.


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Originally Posted by 68LAR
Originally Posted by 4mopower
At what point did you step up on a street driven BB.
Is Evac usable on the street? would you use a oil catch with the Evac?
Breather on one cover and evac on the opposite side? Or two evac's?



I run an evac on my race/street stroker. It pulls 5 inches at idle. Two breathers, one on each side in valve covers. Been like this for at least twenty years with no issues.
I would guess that a lot would depend on the cam specs. What I have works for my set up very well.



How do you get 5"hg at idle with breathers?
Doug

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My simple set up.

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When I had to meet a decibel rule at Sears Point many years back, we added a 3.5" exhaust w/race bullets & turndowns at the axle.
The 368" SB had a fairly low-tension ring package & the usual evac setup into the collectors.
That seemed to render the evac system useless.
Changed to a GM passenger car electric pump, which fixed it inexpensively.
Pulled about 5" or so, IIRC.

Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: Chargerfan68] #3225715
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Chargerfan68 - I am running O2 sensors but I was thinking of moving the check valve downstream of the collector.

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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: dvw] #3225721
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Originally Posted by dvw
Originally Posted by 68LAR
Originally Posted by 4mopower
At what point did you step up on a street driven BB.
Is Evac usable on the street? would you use a oil catch with the Evac?
Breather on one cover and evac on the opposite side? Or two evac's?



I run an evac on my race/street stroker. It pulls 5 inches at idle. Two breathers, one on each side in valve covers. Been like this for at least twenty years with no issues.
I would guess that a lot would depend on the cam specs. What I have works for my set up very well.



How do you get 5"hg at idle with breathers?
Doug


I don’t know to be truthful. I installed the evacuation system and checked it with a vacuum gauge and this is what I got. I do know that on the street, you need straight thru mufflers. Chambered mufflers have too much back pressure. Maybe this is why it works for me. I run Magnaflows.


4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: 68LAR] #3225733
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For a mostly street car, I like two big hoses (-10). One on each valve cover to a breather tank. No pcv or pump. twocents


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Re: PCV, EVAC or PUMP [Re: topside] #3225761
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So when you added the exhaust you lost pulse for the evac to function?







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