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Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: Cab_Burge] #3194387
11/30/23 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Here's what I've run on my hemi for many years w/ no issues at all. Milodon pump w/ a stock cast iron pump cover. 7200+ rpm.

Who popped a wheelie and bashed his oil pan on the return to earth whistling
I'm glad it didn't tear it open bow up

Yep, I've done in it a few times now. The last time it did tear the pan open.
Put a nice Charlie's pan on it now, but the car may be retired for a while.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3194608
11/30/23 11:56 PM
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I had a titan pump on my aluminum block, never had this problem being discussed. I went to dry sump due to lack of ground clearance. Titan drawback is very expensive!

Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: Thelma133] #3194622
12/01/23 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Thelma133
I had a titan pump on my aluminum block, never had this problem being discussed. I went to dry sump due to lack of ground clearance. Titan drawback is very expensive!
You are correct, I will probably step up to a Petersen multi stage dry sump system on my new race car for the local northwest no prep deal next year luck


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: fbs63] #3194674
12/01/23 12:11 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
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Originally Posted by fbs63
Use one of the Peterson primer remote filter mounts. Spin it with a cordless till you have pressure and go. I would check both fitting hose joints on the suction side. If you're loosing prime you have an air leak period.


Very cool! Didn’t know those existed. I googled them….SPENDY,!!!

Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3194698
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Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve -Mounting UPDATE [Re: jcc] #3221543
03/19/24 09:36 PM
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Well I think I’m moving into the no check valve camp. Just wanted to post for anyone else thinking of installing a check valve.

Started the car Saturday to head out to test and tune and was letting it warm up when the oil pressure light went off -20lbs. Giving it a tad of throttle and the gauge would fall back just a bit. Shut the car off and prepped the lift, got back in and when I started it. it took 4-5 seconds to build pressure and the oil pressure was back up to 60. Drained the oil, pulled the check valve and the plunger was gone. Pulled the pump and filter looking for the plunger but didn’t find anything. I cut the filter open, clean as a pin. Not sure where the plunger is, but it will likely go back together without a check valve.

I had it out the week before and it was holding 40 lbs at idle once the oil was hot (VR-1 20/50 Dino) and it held 80lbs down track at 7200, so no issues. Just really thankful it came apart idling in the shop and not at 7200.

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Phase I 451 906/590/2-660 10.75/126
Phase II 451 Stage VI/590/1050 9.82/135
Phase III 383 906/Victor-Pump gas 11.30/119

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Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: B1MAXX] #3221602
03/20/24 08:05 AM
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Apollo, PA.
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
He'll probably cause a high rpm starvation problem, with all this bs and blow it up. Ain't no way I'm putting anything between my pump and its oil.


I repeat.

Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: B1MAXX] #3221632
03/20/24 11:03 AM
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Motor City
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Originally Posted by B1MAXX
He'll probably cause a high rpm starvation problem, with all this bs and blow it up. Ain't no way I'm putting anything between my pump and its oil.


I repeat.

I agree. I have never run a one way valve on any of my engines and I have never had any issues.


1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3221635
03/20/24 11:11 AM
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If I had a dry start issue that worried me enough to try and solve it……..I’d install an accusump.

But, nothing I’ve built to this point has needed one.


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Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
Re: External Oil Pump One Way Valve Mounting [Re: Cab_Burge] #3221683
03/20/24 03:05 PM
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Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh...
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I was having that issue went with this simple loop and no problem with it picking up quickly. 440 Source cover on a Melling HV pump

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