3" mains, yes or no?
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I picked up a used 4.5" Velasco billet Hemi crank in beautiful condition, but I didn't realize it had 3" mains. I'm planning to offset grind the rod journals down to 2.200" at 4.625 stroke. This would be going into a KB aluminum block. The crank would be stronger and more rigid with 3" mains. Is there any reason not to line bore the block out to 3"? Would the block be weaker?
Thanks, Joel
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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No. Just say no. Putting together a Hemi today is hard enough with out trying to run a 3" main crank. If you had an old 3" main KB block that would be one thing but no. Put the crank on the wall as wall art or ask the guy if he'll take it back.
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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No. Just say no. Putting together a Hemi today is hard enough with out trying to run a 3" main crank. If you had an old 3" main KB block that would be one thing but no. Put the crank on the wall as wall art or ask the guy if he'll take it back. Is grinding the main journals down to 2.75 a viable option?
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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It might not even have a flywheel register on the back. And what is the balance? Ask the guy if he will take it back. Life is hard enough without trying to go down that rabbit hole.
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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It might not even have a flywheel register on the back. And what is the balance? Ask the guy if he will take it back. Life is hard enough without trying to go down that rabbit hole. Those are two very good points. The last 3" crank I had in the shop was super heavy and you are correct about them usually not having a flywheel register or being drilled for an input shaft.
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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No. Just say no. Putting together a Hemi today is hard enough with out trying to run a 3" main crank. If you had an old 3" main KB block that would be one thing but no. Put the crank on the wall as wall art or ask the guy if he'll take it back. Is grinding the main journals down to 2.75 a viable option? Two things depending on your crank grinder ability,, take that crank to them and check with him first before going forward. I was going to do the same thing with an older KB top fuel fully counterweighted crank and was told by my crank grinder that those cranks can't be offset ground I did have another fully counterweight old top fuel crank from Sonny Bryant that was a 4.25 stroke offset ground to BB Chevy rod journal size and increase the stroke to 4.375 Joel, as far a sthis crank is a early Firepower tyep crank or a Gen 2 426 Street hemi type crank? Either way with your deal being N/A on pump gas I wouldn't be the least bit concern using the 2.75 main sizes on either Gen one or Gen two Hemi motors
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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Call Crankshaft Supply in Minneapolis. I have had them offset grind and stroke three cranks. Great work, they ask if you want the final journals on the low or high side of spec too . On 2.75 mains, wedge motors are built to 4.75 stroke with 2.75 mains and 2.2 rods. Molnar even makes a bbc rod in 2.1 rod journal size.
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Re: 3" mains, yes or no?
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Greg, I called Crankshaft supply and they quoted me about $1500 to do the rod and main journals. That would be a no-go, I'd be better off selling the crank and buying a new one. So I called Engelke Machine in Lester Prairie, he quoted about $500.
On the flywheel register, it would seem I could just use a 392 flywheel, as they do not have a register ring on the 392 crank. THey just have counterbore on the front of the flywheel to fit the O.D. of the crank flange. Or counterbore a 426 flywheel.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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