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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: B1CUDA] #3216115
02/25/24 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by B1CUDA
Yes, I am a part of KB., as well as a network distributor. I will be happy to speak to anyone who has questions, requests, etc.

M-F 8am-6pm (pst)
(714) 739-4400

Website:

www.keithblackhemi.com

My email:
Chris@Keithblackhemi.com



I was one of the lucky ones ordering mine around 2007 or 2008. Although it’s sitting together and unused it’s one of the things I highly prize and would probably never sell


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: pittsburghracer] #3216148
02/25/24 07:00 PM
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Well maybe you would like to speak with me then. WHO helped fix the mess that KB created? Who is out THOUSANDS of dollars? YOU HAVE A LOT of wires crossed here. Trust me when I say YOU do not want to dance with me on this. I have every email and receipt from the last 8 years of CRAP. I understand that Tim has gotten things under better control now but there is a LOT of water under this bridge you know nothing about. Want to get wet ? Call me sometime? or ask TIM.
Todd Marsh
336 -283 -0800

Last edited by sasquatch; 02/25/24 08:08 PM.
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: sasquatch] #3216239
02/26/24 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
Well maybe you would like to speak with me then. WHO helped fix the mess that KB created? Who is out THOUSANDS of dollars? YOU HAVE A LOT of wires crossed here. Trust me when I say YOU do not want to dance with me on this. I have every email and receipt from the last 8 years of CRAP. I understand that Tim has gotten things under better control now but there is a LOT of water under this bridge you know nothing about. Want to get wet ? Call me sometime? or ask TIM.
Todd Marsh
336 -283 -0800


When this blew up years ago, several people on here said things just didn’t seem right. Things that were posted didn’t add up. We even had mods that got upset that people called out the bs. I believe an advertiser on here was involved and that might’ve ruffled some feathers. Looks like the members were right to “see something, say something.”

I’d buy again from Todd Marsh. Others, not so much.


I want my fair share
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3216305
02/26/24 11:49 AM
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That didn't age well.

Someone decided what they have to say wasn't important after all!


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: GY3] #3216310
02/26/24 12:02 PM
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Yep, not looking good for KB. I know I wouldn't buy from them now. Now they have Stage V too.


CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3216312
02/26/24 12:10 PM
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To many the KB name means nothing anymore unless one is looking for a tarnished name.


STOP POTATO HATE!
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3216354
02/26/24 02:08 PM
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Tim is doing an outstanding job of taking care of me on my aluminum wedge K-B block up bow scope up twocents


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3216461
02/26/24 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
Originally Posted by sasquatch
Well maybe you would like to speak with me then. WHO helped fix the mess that KB created? Who is out THOUSANDS of dollars? YOU HAVE A LOT of wires crossed here. Trust me when I say YOU do not want to dance with me on this. I have every email and receipt from the last 8 years of CRAP. I understand that Tim has gotten things under better control now but there is a LOT of water under this bridge you know nothing about. Want to get wet ? Call me sometime? or ask TIM.
Todd Marsh
336 -283 -0800


When this blew up years ago, several people on here said things just didn’t seem right. Things that were posted didn’t add up. We even had mods that got upset that people called out the bs. I believe an advertiser on here was involved and that might’ve ruffled some feathers. Looks like the members were right to “see something, say something.”

I’d buy again from Todd Marsh. Others, not so much.

I agree with you. Todd absolutely took care of me. The process to get the block was absolutely ridiculous. All in all it was close to two yrs from order till block arrived. This was absolutely not on Todd. Not sure if any more ever came in after mine. It should not be that hard to get a block.


Ok
Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: cudatom] #3216474
02/26/24 10:08 PM
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KB was a complete dumpster fire. I never got personally involved in that mess but I got close enough to see some of the problems. I'm glad that Tim and others got involved and that they were able to save as much as possible. I know a lot of people got screwed over by the old KB and I'm not sure if there was even any way for the new owners to solve problems that the previous owners had created. Hopefully some of that got worked out as well as possible, but if a business owner screws a bunch of people and then sells the business, sometimes there isn't much that can be done. We've seen that happen with several Mopar businesses over the years.

Saving Stage V is another nice deed. I don't know the full story there but a lot of times when a owner of a small business dies, the business goes away. Indy was sold in time to save it and it sounds like Stage V has been saved so that is good. If I died unexpectedly my business would go away. If I knew I had time I might be able to transfer some of it to someone else, but a sudden illness can blow up plans. That is what happened to Schumacher. He was making motor mounts and swap kits in his home shop but then he had a family illness to deal with and the business shut down. He was eventually able to sell it but he was shut down for about a year and lost a lot of customers in the process.

I'm old enough now that I've watched a bunch of my peers transition their Mopar businesses. Firm Feel moved from father to son and that one seems to be going okay. My son isn't interested in my business so that isn't an option for me. Selling a small business is a huge hassle and business owners typically don't want to sell until the last moment since often times it is the only thing they have. So it is common to end up with really difficult transitions full of tons of unsolved issues.

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