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When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.


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Re: Remove Bell-housing or not [Re: 67vertman] #3209561
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Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



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WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


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Re: Remove Bell-housing or not [Re: 67vertman] #3209562
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Remove because it's in the way of everything you need to replace and it only takes a couple minutes extra which you would spend working around it anyway. Can you even get the pressure plate out with it on?

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The only one I know you have to remove the clutch/flywheel first is the big truck bellhousing on a Slant. Some of the bolts are behind the flywheel.


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



Remove it ...

WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


I have done it, and yes it take a little more time but not impossible. The worst part for me is aligning the throw-out bearing.


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Originally Posted by slantzilla
The only one I know you have to remove the clutch/flywheel first is the big truck bellhousing on a Slant. Some of the bolts are behind the flywheel.


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Originally Posted by stumpy
Remove because it's in the way of everything you need to replace and it only takes a couple minutes extra which you would spend working around it anyway. Can you even get the pressure plate out with it on?


Yes, drop out the clutch disk first.


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



Remove it ...

WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


Reporting...I've done it many (most) times. PP and disc comes out the bottom easily. Only hassle is having to deal with the PP bolts two at a time. Even the FSM says so.

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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
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Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



Remove it ...

WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


Reporting...I've done it many (most) times. PP and disc comes out the bottom easily. Only hassle is having to deal with the PP bolts two at a time. Even the FSM says so.


I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point? The OP has done it and knows that it is doable so I'm curious as to the reason for the question?

The FSM is geared toward the guy that getting paid an hour to do a 3 hour job , usually the bellhousing is filled with a sludgy coating and I find it easier to clean it out with the bellhousing in the parts washer .


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Ive done it both ways.

IMO leave the BH in place. no messing with the starter and it gives you a back support to hang the clutch parts on with a dowel rod inserted to hold everything up.

best I remember the last one I did just slide the trans back and leave the input shaft rest against the bellhsg , swap clutch and slide it back in

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Originally Posted by JohnRR

I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point? The OP has done it and knows that it is doable so I'm curious as to the reason for the question?


I wondered the same thing.


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



Remove it ...

WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


Reporting...I've done it many (most) times. PP and disc comes out the bottom easily. Only hassle is having to deal with the PP bolts two at a time. Even the FSM says so.


I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point?



The point is not having to deal with the starter and Z-bar. Sure, if the inside of the bell needs cleaning or the flywheel needs resurfacing, remove the bell... but for a simple clutch replacement why remove the bell?


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Re: Remove Bell-housing or not [Re: John_Kunkel] #3210083
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I've used a broken off input shaft to stick into the clutch disc and into the pilot bearing to help align the clutch disc and pressure plate, it works okay but not as easy as with the bell housing off twocents
With the bell housing off I'll hang the pressure plate off of two bolts by two or three threads on the top of the flywheel and then slide the disc in and put two more bolts loosely on the bottom and then finish the job wrench scope work


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Re: Remove Bell-housing or not [Re: JohnRR] #3210095
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by 67vertman
When you replace a clutch on and A B C or E-body, do you remove the bell-housing or leave it? And Why.



Remove it ...

WHY ??? try it without doing so and report back ... fan


Reporting...I've done it many (most) times. PP and disc comes out the bottom easily. Only hassle is having to deal with the PP bolts two at a time. Even the FSM says so.


I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point? The OP has done it and knows that it is doable so I'm curious as to the reason for the question?

The FSM is geared toward the guy that getting paid an hour to do a 3 hour job , usually the bellhousing is filled with a sludgy coating and I find it easier to clean it out with the bellhousing in the parts washer .


Only when swapping out the clutch. I am getting ready to do a total trans replacement, 4sp to 5sp and was just thinking about it so I throw it out there as a topic starter.. This one will be a full bellhousing removal as I may resurface the fly wheel if needed.


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Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Originally Posted by JohnRR

I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point? The OP has done it and knows that it is doable so I'm curious as to the reason for the question?


I wondered the same thing.


Just for a topic starter. wave


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Originally Posted by 67vertman
Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Originally Posted by JohnRR

I've done it too ,but if the trans is out and I'm not doing it in between rounds at the track what's the point? The OP has done it and knows that it is doable so I'm curious as to the reason for the question?


I wondered the same thing.


Just for a topic starter. wave


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