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Does your 5 second eighth mile car have a funny car cage?

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I'm not sure about the 1/8 mile requirements but I did have to have the funny car cage added to get my old S/P Cuda cerrted to 8:5 ET., maybe it was to 7:50 ET confused


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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I'm not sure about the 1/8 mile requirements but I did have to have the funny car cage added to get my old S/P Cuda cerrted to 8:5 ET., maybe it was to 7:50 ET confused


25.5 cage (halo) only req'd for quicker than 8.50 (25.5 will cert to 7.50). For the 1/8 I believe it's quicker than 5.49 et and more than 125mph that requires a 25.5 (or 25.4) chassis.


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My street car has a 25.5 cage certified to 7.50's. I absolutely hate that more and more of everything is going to 1/8 mile. 99% of the races are won on the better launch. Drag racing has always been and is meant be a quarter mile.


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Re: Cage [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3208354
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Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
My street car has a 25.5 cage certified to 7.50's. I absolutely hate that more and more of everything is going to 1/8 mile. 99% of the races are won on the better launch. Drag racing has always been and is meant be a quarter mile.
To win any type of a dial in race you have to drive both ends of the track regardless of its length, correct work


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The 1/8 mile cage certs aren't set in stone. 8.50 cert will get you to around 5.30
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
My street car has a 25.5 cage certified to 7.50's. I absolutely hate that more and more of everything is going to 1/8 mile. 99% of the races are won on the better launch. Drag racing has always been and is meant be a quarter mile.
To win any type of a dial in race you have to drive both ends of the track regardless of its length, correct work


Dial in bracket racing is lame and boring. I get that it has its place to make it fair for everyone regardless of vehicle or budget. I have just never been a fan. It's called Drag Racing, first one to the finish wins.


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Re: Cage [Re: Thelma133] #3208398
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This is what the NHRA has to say about it. So No not until you go under 4.49 (1/8 mi) - These are for Super/pro - Pro type Bracket cars. Class cars may have different requirements
ROLL BAR
Roll bar mandatory in all cars (including T-tops) running 11.00
(*7.00) to 11.49 (*7.35), in convertibles running 11.00 (*7.00) to
13.49 (*8.25), and in all dune-buggy-type vehicles running 12.00
(*7.50) seconds and slower. Permitted in all cars. See General
Regulations 4:10, 10:6.


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Interesting, I always thought it was done using 1/8th mile to 1/4 mile equivalents. For example. a 5.00 car in the 1/8th (7.9 ish 1/4), will require 7.50 - 8.49 safety requirements and a 5.50 1/8th (8.7 ish) would require 8.50 - 9.99 stuff. work
Only had a cursory glance but I can't find any mention of 1/8th mile chassis requirements in the NHRA rule book shruggy

I believe all the chassis certifications below require a halo or funny car style cage

25.1 SFI Full Body Chassis Spec, Pro Stock . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 year
Adv. E.T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 years
25.2 SFI Full Body Chassis Spec, 3,200-Pound Maximum . . . . .3 years
25.3 Full-Bodied Car, Tube Chassis Roll Cage
6.50-7.49, 3,600-Pound Maximum. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .3 years
25.4 Full-Bodied Car, Tube Chassis Roll Cage
7.50-8.49, 3,600-Pound Maximum. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 years
25.5 Full-Bodied Car, with OEM Frame
7.50-8.49, 3,600-Pound Maximum. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 years


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Any certification quicker than 8.50 has a funny car cage. As mentioned around 5.40

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Originally Posted by 68roadrunner
Any certification quicker than 8.50 has a funny car cage. As mentioned around 5.40

Well I’ll never have to worry about that. Of course I could install one in my cage but don’t want it, way too many bars to get in and out of now.

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Alot of people don't like them, and I understand why. And there's several more bars involved to make one cert.

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My mild steel Daytona already had an 8.50 cert and a funny car cage. I paid to have it upgraded to a 7.50 cert and was told it needed four bars. The guy doing the work had it up on his hoist and an NHRA certification guy found 3-4 more bars that needed changed out because of rule changes which was fine with me. My blue heads up car is chrome moly and has a 6.50 NHRA certification


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Originally Posted by 68roadrunner
Alot of people don't like them, and I understand why. And there's several more bars involved to make one cert.

When my mild steel cage was removed and replaced with CM I was going to add a funny car cage. My chassis guy and I discussed this but when he heard I'd also drive it on the road from time to time he said he wouldn't add it . He said in the street it wasn't safe. Not a problem as I won't go faster than 8.5.


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Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
[quote=Cab_Burge][quote=6PKRTSE]]

Dial in bracket racing is lame and boring. I get that it has its place to make it fair for everyone regardless of vehicle or budget. I have just never been a fan. It's called Drag Racing, first one to the finish wins.
Do you race?
If so what class? How often do you get to race?
My new car is intended to be a heads up no breakout car for all out heads up racing in the local northwest heads up no prep series that has around 5 to 6 races a year up here due to the weather and track schedules shruggy
I was told earlier this year the promter may have stop proming those races due to having health problems in his family that need all of his attention, I'm praying for them
I will take it put for testing and tuning and will probably enter it into some S/P races to get more seat and tuning time luck up scope


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