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I need to replace the dash vents in my 69 Dart GTS. I have a blue dash and the dash vents are pretty well toasted. I have a new set of Year One dash vents but they are black in color. Has anyone here painted plastic parts and how well did it hold up? I would almost think that the paint may not stick to the plastic very well. Thanks! wave


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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: tboomer] #3208227
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I have painted my center console black (was green) and still holding up great (12 years). I used a plastic primer and added an elastic additive to the 2k paint (the additive is not strictly needed though - especially when you paint something that doesn't flex at all).

Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: tboomer] #3208228
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ABS is a common interior plastic material and paint adheres to it very well- much better than other plastics. Spray can paint especially on plastics is not durable where it is frequently handled/manhandled. That said I believe HVAC vents are ABS and being they are just touched with finger tips the paint covering should hold up and be fine.


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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: 2boltmain] #3208242
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Herb's(are they still around?) has/had a line of interior paints in spray cans. Before you spray the color, use some Adhesion Promotor. SEM makes a good one that I've used. Make sure to follow the directions on the can.

Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: burdar] #3208249
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I have painted a bunch of plastic interior parts with good long term results. Eastwood sells a plastic primer and has lots of colors of plastic paints as I recall.

Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: burdar] #3208251
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i just painted some door handles and other parts with sem paint its called color coat aerosols its flexible paint not dye u can use it on carpet,seats and other interior parts .just where the sun bakes the top of door handle and turns it dark color well its gone . the paint covered up great and i am very satisfied with the results but 1 can of 12 oz paint cost around 28$ sem sent me a color chare they carry 3 different blue colors.866-327-7829 call them and get hem to send u a color chart and on your dash vents i would put 1 or 2 coats so the grain will still show the more the paint the less u gonna see the grain. good luck on your project

Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: burks340] #3208259
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I use SEM products on all of my dash restorations.

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Here's a recent thread that might be useful:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/3203198/Searchpage/1/Main/261118/Words/%2Bplastic/Search/true/re-body-guys-painting-plastic.html#Post3203198



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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: 70gtx440dana] #3208285
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what product number[s] was [were] used on the brown dash restoration ?
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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: Ramrod39] #3208308
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Easy, Just clean , them,. ,clean them again, And when you think they are clean, ........ Clean them again.

Spray with some kid of adhesion promotor and they will be fine.

I did a set of door panels in a 1970 Cuda over ten tears ago now . And they still look good

Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: gtx6970] #3208311
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Those are a little to no contact part so you can just clean them with soapy water and paint them with whatever paint and it should last a long time. Getting the correct color would be the most important thing otherwise they will stick out like a sore thumb. The original colors on those are going to be a matte or suede color with no real gloss to them.

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Ditto on the cleaning, but defroster vents should just be dusty/dirty unless they've been sprayed with Armorall or another detailing spray that contains silicone.
The defroster vents weren't painted suede, just molded in an approximate match of the dash color.
I've never had a problem with painting them, and there are door panels out there I painted 30 years ago and they're still mint.
I have the paint, left over from a project; I can paint them for you if you like, just mail them to me - no charge.

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Originally Posted by moparx
what product number[s] was [were] used on the brown dash restoration ?
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Had to have the colors custom mixed for the tan/brown dash.....the standard offerings were not a good match. I do not have any material left to reference product ID or color code.


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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: tboomer] #3208349
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My center console and door panels got a coat of Duplicolor plastic and vinyl. I hate rattle cans but this stuff was awesome to work with. Wiped everything down with alcohol and it laid down very nice. Dried completely, not tacky.


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Re: Painting plastic parts? [Re: gtx6970] #3208372
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i am a PPG certified painter.
when painting plastic the most important part is to identify the type of plastic you are painting.
ABS type plastic doe NOT require adhesion promoter. TPO type plastics DOES require promoter.
fastest way to identify the type is cut a small sliver off the part. then place it in a cup of water. force the plastic to the bottom of the water several times to make sure you break surface tension floating the plastic.
IF the plastic floats you need adhesion promoter. if it sinks no promoter is required.

if promoter is required LIGHTLY scuff the plastic with a fine grit scotch brite. i use a gray.. DON'T heavily scuff it, use a RED scotch brite pad.
the promoter will swell up the scuff scratches making a mess.

plastic needs to be CLEAN before painting. i found using white wall cleaner and a gray scotch brite cleans it really good. make sure you completely rinse off the soap before painting.
you might try wiping it down with rubbing alcohol works great if on a budget.
PPG makes a 3 step clean, wipe, and prep system. it's somewhat $$$ but works great on TPO plastic.
PPG also makes a alcohol based plastic cleaner. DX103. i think it's only sold by the gallon so it's somewhat $$ also.

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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
i am a PPG certified painter.
when painting plastic the most important part is to identify the type of plastic you are painting.
ABS type plastic doe NOT require adhesion promoter. TPO type plastics DOES require promoter.
fastest way to identify the type is cut a small sliver off the part. then place it in a cup of water. force the plastic to the bottom of the water several times to make sure you break surface tension floating the plastic.
IF the plastic floats you need adhesion promoter. if it sinks no promoter is required.

if promoter is required LIGHTLY scuff the plastic with a fine grit scotch brite. i use a gray.. DON'T heavily scuff it, use a RED scotch brite pad.
the promoter will swell up the scuff scratches making a mess.

plastic needs to be CLEAN before painting. i found using white wall cleaner and a gray scotch brite cleans it really good. make sure you completely rinse off the soap before painting.
you might try wiping it down with rubbing alcohol works great if on a budget.
PPG makes a 3 step clean, wipe, and prep system. it's somewhat $$$ but works great on TPO plastic.
PPG also makes a alcohol based plastic cleaner. DX103. i think it's only sold by the gallon so it's somewhat $$ also.


Excellent advice especially on the alcohol. i will only add use VIRGIN paper or lint free towels that have touched NOTHING else beer

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Some really good tips here guys! Thank you! up


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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
i am a PPG certified painter.
when painting plastic the most important part is to identify the type of plastic you are painting.
ABS type plastic doe NOT require adhesion promoter. TPO type plastics DOES require promoter.
fastest way to identify the type is cut a small sliver off the part. then place it in a cup of water. force the plastic to the bottom of the water several times to make sure you break surface tension floating the plastic.
IF the plastic floats you need adhesion promoter. if it sinks no promoter is required.

if promoter is required LIGHTLY scuff the plastic with a fine grit scotch brite. i use a gray.. DON'T heavily scuff it, use a RED scotch brite pad.
the promoter will swell up the scuff scratches making a mess.

plastic needs to be CLEAN before painting. i found using white wall cleaner and a gray scotch brite cleans it really good. make sure you completely rinse off the soap before painting.
you might try wiping it down with rubbing alcohol works great if on a budget.
PPG makes a 3 step clean, wipe, and prep system. it's somewhat $$$ but works great on TPO plastic.
PPG also makes a alcohol based plastic cleaner. DX103. i think it's only sold by the gallon so it's somewhat $$ also.


i re read and will clarify a bit.
WASH / scrub down part with WW cleaner then rinse.
for FINAL prep before painting use alcohol inetead of wax and grease remover.

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