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How would YOU order a new Mopar? #3207727 01/24/24 07:17 AM 01/24/24 07:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN J JERICOGTX OP I Live Here
JERICOGTX OP I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN	In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new. Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today: 1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite 383 4 Bbl Super Commando 4 speed B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind) Center console Interior light package Tachometer AM 8 track stereo 3.23 Sure Grip rear Disc Brakes Tinted glass 3 speed wipers I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered. So, how would YOU order your new Mopar??? 69 GTX 68 Road Runner

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207776 01/24/24 12:20 PM 01/24/24 12:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	How I would order a Mopar Back In The Day: 1969 RM23 Road Runner Hardtop 383, 4bbl, 335 HP RR engine F5 Limelight Poly GREEN Black (Bucket Seat) Interior (C65) Bucket Seats with Console C16 Console V21 Performance Hood Stripes 727 TorqueFlite A31 High Performance Axle Package 3.91 rear A01 light package N96 Air Grabber (requires 3-speed wiper B41/B51 Power Disc Brakes G11 All Tinted Windows R11 Solid State AM Radio (Add higher quality aftermarket 8-Track and FM receiver hidden in glovebox ) G33 Mirror: Remote Control Left Outside G31 Manual-Right Outside (Mirror) S77 Power Steering N85 Tachometer T85 F-70/14 Red Fiberglass Belted Funny thing, I did sit down at the hometown Plymouth dealership "Back In The Day" in early spring of 1969 and order this RM23 Road Runner. Everything on the list except for the four asterisk items that looking back wished I would have added. Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror. BTW speaking of GYC this was pretty close to what Mark and the Mopar Dealer Don Jones sat down and spec'd out for his A4 Road Runner in the episode "Jonesing for a Road Runner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CsF3HpfIw4&t=344s Last edited by A12; 01/24/24 01:23 PM.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207778 01/24/24 12:27 PM 01/24/24 12:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	Quote I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered. I forgot that I did the very same thing as you state as I was also torn between Keystones and slotted wheels. When I told the dealer salesman when he suggest road wheel I declined them and he slipped in full wheel covers where I thought I would get body color wheels and dog dishes. Worked out okay as the wheels were black and looked somewhat cool without the full wheel covers at the drag strip or cruising for a little street rac............oops never mind.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: A12] #3207779 01/24/24 12:37 PM 01/24/24 12:37 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	71 Hemi Challenger R/T N94 hood M51 Sunroof black top EV2 paint orange stripe Front and Rear rubber bumpers 4 speed 15x7 rallyes Orange cloth seat inserts No console Front and Rear spoilers louvers dual painted mirrors Last edited by autoxcuda; 01/24/24 05:16 PM.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: A12] #3207781 01/24/24 12:51 PM 01/24/24 12:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,779 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,779 A collage of whims	I've been fortunate to own a few '68-'69 Road Runners and at least one '68 Charger that were/are as I'd have ordered them: Early '68 Hemi 4speed RR coupe in QQ1, no other options Later & currently same combo except 383, light group & AM radio I never listen to A couple other '69 RRs like a triple-green 383/4-speed HT with AC, & current Y2 Decor coupe, AG 383/4-speed The Q5/white bench 383 AG HT was a great combo, but was an AT car, or I'd have kept it... And my favorite of my 2nd-gen Chargers: red, white interior, 383/4-speed w/AC There have been many others that weren't necessarily what I'd have ordered but were very enjoyable. At times I'd have 6-8 of them in different colors & spec, but that was too much to maintain.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: A12] #3207782 01/24/24 12:57 PM 01/24/24 12:57 PM
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JERICOGTX OP I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN	Originally Posted by A12 Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror. I've been thinking of adding a RH mirror as well. Already have a LH remote mirror. 69 GTX 68 Road Runner

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207791 01/24/24 01:20 PM 01/24/24 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	Originally Posted by JERICOGTX Originally Posted by A12 Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror. I've been thinking of adding a RH mirror as well. Already have a LH remote mirror. I have to add G33 Left Outside remote mirror as my RR did have that BITD didn't know I ordered it but just now realized it had it. Thanks for the reminder.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207794 01/24/24 01:24 PM 01/24/24 01:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 545 Washington, MI Ashsdad Whatever you call me, my wife has called me worse.
Ashsdad Whatever you call me, my wife has called me worse. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 545 Washington, MI	I'd keep my Challenger ('70 Convert, Red/white top and interior) but upgrade: Power - 340 in place of the 318 Transmission - 4 speed in place of the auto Axle - 8 3/4 in place of the 7 1/4 Add the RH mirror Maybe add rallye gages. Dad bought it new and anticipated mom driving it, so some corners were cut. His first one was a purple big block car he had for a week. He really wanted red but the only red one on the lot was for the dealership owner's wife. The salesman made a deal to get it for him and the swap was made.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207809 01/24/24 01:46 PM 01/24/24 01:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	I know lots of members will go for the Hemi option but the back in the day reality was pretty shocking and overwhelming when you were under 21 and had to have a co-signer and or a parent that would put you on their car insurance as a non-primary driver. The cost of insurance for a 383 Road Runner was high enough and then you add the "notorious" HEMI to it and then consider the HEMI option price was almost 1/3 of the base price of the car at over $800. Add in MPG, cost of service, and most of the owners didn't know how to keep them in tune and never really used that power like going racing at a legitimate race track. More bragging rights than really practical. But hey we can all dream as we did back in the day and then reality set in. I think my monthly car payment was less than the monthly car insurance at the time and then in the early '70's the insurance company really put the screws to muscle cars and then non-leaded gasoline and gas prices then the HEMI started to make less and less sense. Had a lot to do with why there are these stories of "A friend of mine bought a HEMI (add model here) for $600 bucks that was sitting in a guys yard that bought it new". I sold my '69 RR that I listed here in 1980 for $1500 to a friend that worked in a body shop in Pittsburgh. He repainted it (F5) and did just barely visible if you looked close gold airbrush highlights on the fender and quarter raised ques (bodylines??). Back to dreaming Fun stuff and forget the reality

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: A12] #3207844 01/24/24 03:01 PM 01/24/24 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 545 Washington, MI Ashsdad Whatever you call me, my wife has called me worse.
Ashsdad Whatever you call me, my wife has called me worse. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 545 Washington, MI	Originally Posted by A12 I know lots of members will go for the Hemi option but the back in the day reality was pretty shocking and overwhelming when you were under 21 and had to have a co-signer and or a parent that would put you on their car insurance as a non-primary driver. The cost of insurance for a 383 Road Runner was high enough and then you add the "notorious" HEMI to it and then consider the HEMI option price was almost 1/3 of the base price of the car at over $800. Add in MPG, cost of service, and most of the owners didn't know how to keep them in tune and never really used that power like going racing at a legitimate race track. More bragging rights than really practical. But hey we can all dream as we did back in the day and then reality set in. I think my monthly car payment was less than the monthly car insurance at the time and then in the early '70's the insurance company really put the screws to muscle cars and then non-leaded gasoline and gas prices then the HEMI started to make less and less sense. Had a lot to do with why there are these stories of "A friend of mine bought a HEMI (add model here) for $600 bucks that was sitting in a guys yard that bought it new". I sold my '69 RR that I listed here in 1980 for $1500 to a friend that worked in a body shop in Pittsburgh. He repainted it (F5) and did just barely visible if you looked close gold airbrush highlights on the fender and quarter raised ques (bodylines??). Back to dreaming Fun stuff and forget the reality My neighbor picked up a 69 1/2 A12 car for $600 because the owner got tired of keeping it in tune. That was in 1984. He kept the drive train and put it in his 69 R/T convertible.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207856 01/24/24 03:56 PM 01/24/24 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	Before I ordered my '69 Road Runner I was really wanting a '69 Dodge Dart GTS with a big block 383 and for sure have told the story too many times here of how I ended up with the '69 RR. The GTS would also have been in F5 Green with a black (bucket) interior with a 727 TorqueFlite, console and 3.91 SureGrip. No vinyl roof, A01 light package, no power steering or brakes. Reading a magazine test on the 383 GTS I see a sidebar story on the possibility of the 440 being dropped into the GTS by Dodge (after Dodge seeing Mr. Norm pulling that one off with the '68 GSS) so I head to the local Dodge dealer for a 383 GTS brochure and while there ask about the GTS (M-Code) 440 and immediately get LAUGHED out of the place. Go home and my mom knows something is wrong and then points out that having 3-brothers and 3-sisters it would not be right for me to order a COMPACT CAR. Funny how a Dart was a compact car then and now it's bigger than just about any current full-sized car or SUV today. My how times have changed.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: A12] #3207857 01/24/24 04:10 PM 01/24/24 04:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,430 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,430 It's a dry heat	if where are talking Muscle car era cars. Here goes 1969 GTX convertible. 440 , auto, factory air, power steering and disc brakes. Power window car . AO1 light pkg, perf hood stripes B5 Blue with blue and white interior. R6 red would be a very close 2nd A very close 2nd would be 1967 GTX conv, optioned about the same . In either EE1 blue and same interior. OR maybe QQ1 Burgandy with all red interior If modern ride. This pretty much nails it, except add a sunroof https://www.larrymillerdodgeramtucs...ger-cf43d03e0a0e0a99401762ce630b2df7.htm

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: gtx6970] #3207898 01/24/24 07:10 PM 01/24/24 07:10 PM
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tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,925 United Socialist States of Ame...	As a new A body owner I would dump the 340 auto for a 440 4-speed! I do like my B5 blue... Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: gtx6970] #3207945 01/24/24 10:57 PM 01/24/24 10:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	Bill in 1968 was QQ1 a medium to darkish blue Poly? A little darker that '69 B5?

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3207965 01/25/24 01:47 AM 01/25/24 01:47 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,754 Phila P PhillyRag top fuel
PhillyRag top fuel P Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,754 Phila	Originally Posted by JERICOGTX In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new. Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today: 1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite 383 4 Bbl Super Commando 4 speed Adds $$ ? B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind) Center console Adds $$ ? Interior light package Adds $$ ? Tachometer Adds $$ ? AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ? 3.23 Sure Grip rear Disc Brakes Adds $$ ? Tinted glass Adds $$ ? 3 speed wipers Adds $$ ? I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered. So, how would YOU order your new Mopar??? Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: PhillyRag] #3207969 01/25/24 01:59 AM 01/25/24 01:59 AM
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SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,210 Someplace you aren't	RM21H9 A87 decor package A01/L31 lights G31 pass mirror S81 sport wheel J25 3 speed wipers N96 Tach maybe, but a Don Garlits would be available back then, right? Hemi suspension, think that gets you 3.91s as well G11 Tinted glass Four speed W1 with blue buckets with buddy seat. Game time decision on ps, pb, and/or discs. Also depending on negotiations, am/fm, rear speaker, and the six way. Great car for a daily. Hemi would be what most would want, but I’m thinking for everyday this would do. I want my fair share

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3208026 01/25/24 08:10 AM 01/25/24 08:10 AM
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6PAX master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,621 Detroit area	Mine would be: 1970 Sport Satellite 383 Super Commando 727 3.55 8 3/4 Column shift Bench seat w/fold-down center armrest B5 blue Black vinyl top B5 blue cloth interior PS/PB AM/FM w/rear speaker 15" Rally wheels Auxiliary light package A kid that I was friends with growing up (he lived right behind me) had this very car in 1975 when we were 18 years old. After he let me drive it a couple times, I knew I wanted that car badly and he knew it as well. He was not a car nut type of person like I was so he didn't have any attachment to the car. To him it was just another car. In a matter of months from the time he bought it, he sold it to another kid from our high school without even telling me he was selling it (some friend huh?). Saw the kid who bought it driving it one time after that on Gratiot Avenue and never saw the car again. No idea what happened to it. Nearly 50 years later, I still think of that car regularly. I've never had such a strong desire or passion for any other car like I did/still do for that one. I've been looking for a duplicate of it ever since, even posting wanted ads from time to time but never found one. Now, at my age, I doubt I ever will.

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3208061 01/25/24 11:50 AM 01/25/24 11:50 AM
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68SportFury master 6 Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,108 Glen Burnie MD	1967 Coronet R/T convertible 440 (standard) 4-speed manual (standard) Standard sure-grip rear (3.54?) Center console with tach. Turbine Bronze White interior (includes black carpet and dash) Black convertible top Air conditioning (not recommended with 4-speed, should still be able to be ordered) AM/FM radio Magnum 500 wheels Power steering Power brakes LH remote mirror RH mirror Fender-mounted turn signal indicators Paul 68 Sport Fury ragtop 67 Fury III 4-dr HT 11 Charger Rallye 17 Challenger SXT Plus

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: PhillyRag] #3208073 01/25/24 12:42 PM 01/25/24 12:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN J JERICOGTX OP I Live Here
JERICOGTX OP I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN	Originally Posted by PhillyRag Originally Posted by JERICOGTX In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new. Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today: 1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite 383 4 Bbl Super Commando 4 speed Adds $$ ? B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind) Center console Adds $$ ? Interior light package Adds $$ ? Tachometer Adds $$ ? AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ? 3.23 Sure Grip rear Disc Brakes Adds $$ ? Tinted glass Adds $$ ? 3 speed wipers Adds $$ ? I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered. So, how would YOU order your new Mopar??? Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost. That is true. Does anyone know where the original option cost breakdown can be found online? 69 GTX 68 Road Runner

Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar? [Re: PhillyRag] #3208078 01/25/24 01:05 PM 01/25/24 01:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 N.E. OHIO, USA	Originally Posted by PhillyRag Originally Posted by JERICOGTX In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new. Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today: 1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite 383 4 Bbl Super Commando 4 speed Adds $$ ? B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind) Center console Adds $$ ? Interior light package Adds $$ ? Tachometer Adds $$ ? AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ? 3.23 Sure Grip rear Disc Brakes Adds $$ ? Tinted glass Adds $$ ? 3 speed wipers Adds $$ ? I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered. So, how would YOU order your new Mopar??? Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost. So true. When I look back at when I sat down in '69 to order my RR I had aleady driven a friend's '68 RM21 bare bones NO OPTIONS HEMI Road Runner with a 3.23 OPEN 8-3/4 727 and yes the HEMI motor was impressive but I just couldn't deal with how bare bones no options it was. I think the HEMI option was around $814 and that's just about what I paid for all of the options on my base $3083 RM23 383 Road Runner back then at around $3700+ out the door. I'm pretty impressed so far with the level headed builds members have been posting

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