Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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Pic shows short term solution, have to look close…… Checked trans fluid before going in Sams, jump in car after shopping and get up to 40mph and [censored], as I watch hood rise. Mind racing, this things gonna fly off, and cause a disaster. And the whole time, seemed like forever, but was probably 5-10sec, couldn’t see anything. Slammed on brakes and was able to turn off safely. Surprisingly this AAR hood slammed down and no damage. Pic shows short term solution for now. Can’t add a safety latch because that area is now full of other stuff related to Gen 3 swap.
So what about adding a pressure switch that would kill ignition if the hood opens? Thoughts
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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Hood pins?
I would not run any glass hood without them after seeing what the air does to those things at 100mph or so. Challenger grill being set back they way they are is a big air trap and it wants to push the middle of the hood upwards.
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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My thought too. Or hood pins with ribbons Or hood pins with ribbons AND an extra hood pin as a KEY FOB!
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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Or not drinking beer while working on the car? DAMHIK
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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How about a "spoiler" on the leading edge at the front of the hood so it always puts pressure onto the hood like the spoiler flaps on an aircraft? Or tape the hood scoop opening because that's what I think "scoops" and mostly lifts it off along with air getting under the front edge of the hood. Had the hood come up on a box van down in Texas one time and that was right as I hit 60 MPH and had driven several miles. WAM!! broke and covered the windshield on a 2-lane country road with oncoming traffic and no place to pull onto the shoulder but a 6-foot drainage ditch and a foot of shoulder between the road and it. That was TERROR and a thrill. '
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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Thx A12, appreciate the input. When you can't trust the idiot behind the wheel to put the hood pins in, there's a need to make it "idiot proof". This isn't as uncommon as you'd think. My buddy lost his AAR hood when he forgot to pin it. This car came with an original T/A hood, that was pinned at all 4 corners because someone in the past "forgot" and it ripped the hinge areas off. Luckily this aftermarket hood has the steel reinforced sections added. I guess the best answer to to try and figure out how to add a safety latch. I thought about the extra cable, but if the idiot can't remember to put the pins in, I'll forget to do that too.......................
If I could find a switch that failed to the closed position, that might work. If pins are in, hood can't lift.
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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My A12 Road Runner lost its original LOH hood back in the early '70's street racing and then got run over by the Chevelle it beat. Guess the Chevy driver got the last laugh. How about a "reset light"? A red light in plain view on the dash that activates when you remove the hood and then has to be turned off or reset (inside and maybe the same light) when you put the hood down? Put the trigger switch on the radiator support. They are common on most cars to alert when the hood is still open. I don't think the way current (pun) hood open switches work that they shut off the engine but I think they won't let you start the car with the hood not properly closed. That's what you need plus the alert light inside your car. This way with the light if you open the hood with the engine running, like you would to check transmission fluid level you would (hopefully) see the dash "hood open/not closed" alert light. I wonder how many kits I could sell to the Lift-Off-Hood guys before the fact? Mike
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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You put springs around the hood pins such that the hood doesn't fully close unless pinned. If you don't notice a popped hood well ... !!
And I have been in your shoes ... with a steel hood ... and mine came ALL the way uip and back !!
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You put springs around the hood pins such that the hood doesn't fully close unless pinned. If you don't notice a popped hood well ... !!
And I have been in your shoes ... with a steel hood ... and mine came ALL the way uip and back !! That's a good idea, 💡 I lost TWO hoods by not putting the pins in (4 with no hinges ) how do you currently latch the hood? Adding a micro switch to the latch or front of the hood could be used to turn a light on if it raises beyond a 1/2'' or less another thought, A safety latch can be placed anywhere near the front, even on the side(s)
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Re: Almost had a disaster, need a solution
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You put springs around the hood pins such that the hood doesn't fully close unless pinned. If you don't notice a popped hood well ... !!
And I have been in your shoes ... with a steel hood ... and mine came ALL the way uip and back !! Me too. Had a 69 rr up around triple digits on test drive, owner was riding shotgun, said let it eat, and so I did. Hauled it home, put in garage and did a once over. Hood went down flat as it had been. Once on main road, right up it went. How the latch moved from test drive to my house is my biggest automotive mystery and likely always will be. Luckily not a soul was on the main road right then.
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I always attach the cables to the hood pin bezel. Unless I am going for oem look.
What about taking it one step further. Attach the cable to a screw through the bezel and hood.. Run a wire along the inside of the hood to the bottom of the screw. Use the screw, cable and clip to get a ground through the pin post.
That ground could be used for a warning light if the pins are not clipped. One light per side is better. Using a system that illuminates unless a ground is detected is even better.
Just a thought. Some good thoughts, I took a DVM and the pin to post continuity is spotty at best. Definitely couldn't rely on it to verify pin is in. I'm going back to the pressure switch idea, maybe not to kill engine, but trigger a light or buzzer to catch it early. I'm lucky this aftermarket hood is almost as heavy as a steel hood, or it would have been worse. For now the dummy behind the wheel with need to look at the pink ribbon on the steering wheel and check he sees the pink ribbon on the hood pin.
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