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Throttle cable measurement #3201165
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I'm trying to figure out what throttle cable I need. I have a big block now in my 69 Dart with an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Holley 850 carb. and a Mancini high rise throttle bracket. The car was originally a 225 slant. The 225 cable is way too long so I tried a couple of other cables I have in my spare parts but they are both too long as well. One from a small block Dart (not sure if 2 or 4 bbl) and one from a 71 Charger (not sure what engine). The closest one to fitting is the 71 Charger cable but when I installed it, although everything looked proper under the hood, there is about 2" of extra cable sticking through the firewall at the gas pedal (with the pedal tipped back against the firewall). So I measured the excess and it is exactly 2". The cable overall length from the hole in the link that attaches to the throttle pin to the little ball that attaches to the gas pedal is 21" so it looks like I need a 19" overall length cable So, I've been shopping for a cable but when I see the lengths posted, I'm not sure if those are overall length like I was measuring or the length from the carb to the firewall. Does anyone know how those advertised measurements are taken? Also, if anyone happens to know what cable I need please let me know.

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Mancini has them listed by measurement.

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I already looked there. Nothing for a big block A-body.

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ATP Y161

19.25" according to ATP, square hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-161

ATP Y156

19.5" according to ATP, round hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-156

Closest I can find, Rock auto has them if you can't get them local.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
ATP Y161

19.25" according to ATP, square hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-161

ATP Y156

19.5" according to ATP, round hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-156

Closest I can find, Rock auto has them if you can't get them local.


I need the round hole style so I checked the ATP Y156. It doesn't list a 383 Dart as being one of the applications for it. This is why I was wondering how the measurements posted are taken. Plus, 19.5" is still a little too long unless there is some way of mounting the cable to accommodate the extra length.

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Originally Posted by 6PAX



I need the round hole style so I checked the ATP Y156. It doesn't list a 383 Dart as being one of the applications for it. This is why I was wondering how the measurements posted are taken. Plus, 19.5" is still a little too long unless there is some way of mounting the cable to accommodate the extra length.


They don't list anything that old in their catalog. I dug onto my 69 parts manual, the pn for a 69 Dart with a 4bbl 383 is 2899337

https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-PN-2899337-Throttle-Cable-p/808-398.htm

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Originally Posted by 6PAX
Originally Posted by Sniper
ATP Y161

19.25" according to ATP, square hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-161

ATP Y156

19.5" according to ATP, round hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-156

Closest I can find, Rock auto has them if you can't get them local.


I need the round hole style so I checked the ATP Y156. It doesn't list a 383 Dart as being one of the applications for it. This is why I was wondering how the measurements posted are taken. Plus, 19.5" is still a little too long unless there is some way of mounting the cable to accommodate the extra length.

Your cable may actually need to be longer than a stock 383 dart. The Performer RPM is significantly taller than stock iron. Also you never said whether you have a B or RB engine. 440 is taller than 383.

Do you have the mopar linkage adapter on the 850 holley? Something is weird here. If the cable housing is attached to the firewall and adjusted properly at the bracket ( you do have the correct bracket?) then it should work.

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Re: Throttle cable measurement [Re: NITROUSN] #3201254
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Since your engine is already not stock, have you considered just buying a universal cable and cutting it to length? I've used cables similar to this on on my 440 Dart and my '73 360 truck and they work great.

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Originally Posted by Exit1965
Since your engine is already not stock, have you considered just buying a universal cable and cutting it to length? I've used cables similar to this on on my 440 Dart and my '73 360 truck and they work great.

I for one DESPISE those finger pricking POS's ( No offense meant to you wink
I would suggest using the existing cable trimming the excess length off and swaging a new end on or use a brrel clamp likely available at you're local hardware store or lawn mower, bicycle shop LINKY

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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Your cable may actually need to be longer than a stock 383 dart. The Performer RPM is significantly taller than stock iron. Also you never said whether you have a B or RB engine. 440 is taller than 383.

Do you have the mopar linkage adapter on the 850 holley? Something is weird here. If the cable housing is attached to the firewall and adjusted properly at the bracket ( you do have the correct bracket?) then it should work.


It's a 400 block and I do have the adapter.and a Mancini high rise bracket. As I mentioned, using the 71 Charger cable, when attached to the carb., and clamped down in the bracket it runs to the firewall and looks like I believe it should (not too short, not too long). But, when I got under the dash to connect it to the pedal, the actual inner cable sticks out about 2" past the little hole it goes through in the pedal arm (with the pedal in the full up position).

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Originally Posted by TJP
I for one DESPISE those finger pricking POS's ( No offense meant to you wink
I would suggest using the existing cable trimming the excess length off and swaging a new end on or use a brrel clamp likely available at you're local hardware store or lawn mower, bicycle shop LINKY


I thought about shortening the cable but wasn't sure on how to replace the little ball on the end (swaging?). I never saw the cable stop before that is shown in the link you sent. That it is something I will seriously consider. Thanks for the link.

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Attach the cable at the pedal end,pull the slack at the carb end and cut and replace the carb fitting with the pedal heigth set where you want it.

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Have you adjusted the cable for WOT? Pedal on floor and carb full open?

The Pedal will end up wherever it ends up at closed throttle.


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Originally Posted by TJP


I for one DESPISE those finger pricking POS's


Superglue on the able where you want to cut it usually keeps it together and prevents finger pricks.

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I for one DESPISE those finger pricking POS's


Superglue on the able where you want to cut it usually keeps it together and prevents finger pricks.
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I actually thought about that but haven't and probably won't have the chance as I'm pretty much done working on other peoples cars wink Thanks for the suggestion beer

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Originally Posted by 6PAX
Originally Posted by TJP
I for one DESPISE those finger pricking POS's ( No offense meant to you wink
I would suggest using the existing cable trimming the excess length off and swaging a new end on or use a brrel clamp likely available at you're local hardware store or lawn mower, bicycle shop LINKY


I thought about shortening the cable but wasn't sure on how to replace the little ball on the end (swaging?). I never saw the cable stop before that is shown in the link you sent. That it is something I will seriously consider. Thanks for the link.

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It will also allow you to play with the adjustment until you have WOT and an agreeable pedal height as mentioned. I would also make sure there is adequate adjustment and the cable clamp on the manifold. beer

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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Originally Posted by 6PAX
Originally Posted by Sniper
ATP Y161

19.25" according to ATP, square hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-161

ATP Y156

19.5" according to ATP, round hole

https://atpautomotive.com/accelerator-cable-y-156

Closest I can find, Rock auto has them if you can't get them local.


I need the round hole style so I checked the ATP Y156. It doesn't list a 383 Dart as being one of the applications for it. This is why I was wondering how the measurements posted are taken. Plus, 19.5" is still a little too long unless there is some way of mounting the cable to accommodate the extra length.

Your cable may actually need to be longer than a stock 383 dart. The Performer RPM is significantly taller than stock iron. Also you never said whether you have a B or RB engine. 440 is taller than 383.

Do you have the mopar linkage adapter on the 850 holley? Something is weird here. If the cable housing is attached to the firewall and adjusted properly at the bracket ( you do have the correct bracket?) then it should work.


He will definitely want one that is longer than the stock BB a body cable. I saw a listing I thought somewhere showing the A body length , it's not on the mancini chart though .


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Originally Posted by 6PAX
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Your cable may actually need to be longer than a stock 383 dart. The Performer RPM is significantly taller than stock iron. Also you never said whether you have a B or RB engine. 440 is taller than 383.

Do you have the mopar linkage adapter on the 850 holley? Something is weird here. If the cable housing is attached to the firewall and adjusted properly at the bracket ( you do have the correct bracket?) then it should work.


It's a 400 block and I do have the adapter.and a Mancini high rise bracket. As I mentioned, using the 71 Charger cable, when attached to the carb., and clamped down in the bracket it runs to the firewall and looks like I believe it should (not too short, not too long). But, when I got under the dash to connect it to the pedal, the actual inner cable sticks out about 2" past the little hole it goes through in the pedal arm (with the pedal in the full up position).


71 charger cable has a square plastic end at the firewall , not the steel round one,I thought ?


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