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1969 Dodge Dart GTS prduction numbers #3194433
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Since owning a 69 GTS 340 car I was curious as to the breakdown of production numbers on these cars. I am sure that mine being a lowly 340 car was the most produced. How many 340,383,and 440 cars were made by the numbers? Let's go one step further and break it down by convertible models and hardtops. Thanks for any input! Ted wave


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Re: 1969 Dodge Dart GTS prduction numbers [Re: tboomer] #3194678
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5557 total
3645 340
1022 4-speed
2623 auto
1912 383
784 4-speed
488 auto
640 440 cars made out of 383 auto
417 convertible
345 340
58 4-speed
214 auto
73 383
34 4-speed
39 auto

Rare no matter what engine or trans was available...

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Thanks Jim! I knew you would pop in! Yeah...Mine is just a lowly 340. That trunk panel I bought from you came out pretty nice! I could have bought a repop but there's nothing like the real thing! wave


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Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!

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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!


There were actually 1,128 383 automatics made, but they took 640 of them and put 440's in making the 383 auto production smaller than the 4-speed numbers.


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Re: 1969 Dodge Dart GTS prduction numbers [Re: Rhinodart] #3194751
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
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Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!


There were actually 1,128 383 automatics made, but they took 640 of them and put 440's in making the 383 auto production smaller than the 4-speed numbers.


And all of the 640 440 M-code's were automatics because the 440 with a 4-speed were to have a Dana but there wasn't a narrow Dana to fit under a Dart/Cuda at that time.

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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
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Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!


There were actually 1,128 383 automatics made, but they took 640 of them and put 440's in making the 383 auto production smaller than the 4-speed numbers.


And because 4 speeds are superior : D



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Originally Posted by Jeremiah
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Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!


There were actually 1,128 383 automatics made, but they took 640 of them and put 440's in making the 383 auto production smaller than the 4-speed numbers.


And because 4 speeds are superior : D


No because the 640 M-codes didn't have the narrow Dana that was required with the 440's torque and only came with the 727 automatic.

And besides by that time the Torqueflite was so much superior to the 4-speed at least for drag racing unless you were Herb or Ronnie.

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Originally Posted by A12
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Interesting how there is a large percentage of 4 speeds vs automatics in the hardtops!


There were actually 1,128 383 automatics made, but they took 640 of them and put 440's in making the 383 auto production smaller than the 4-speed numbers.


And because 4 speeds are superior : D


No because the 640 M-codes didn't have the narrow Dana that was required with the 440's torque and only came with the 727 automatic.

And besides by that time the Torqueflite was so much superior to the 4-speed at least for drag racing unless you were Herb or Ronnie.
Wrong, New Process wasn't ,making any 18 spline A body 833 after 1968 work scope twocents
How do you come up with the 727 being superior to the NP833 confused shruggy


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Wrong, New Process wasn't ,making any 18 spline A body 833 after 1968 work scope twocents
How do you come up with the 727 being superior to the NP833 confused shruggy


Put a thousand drivers behind the wheel of any car with a 727 then swap the trans to the NP833 in the same car and then look at the quarter mile times and speed and there's your answer. wink

I concur the NP833 is a great transmission but overall, there are very few that can get the most out of it, including me and I've driven enough daily driver manual transmission cars/vehicles since 1965. I'll still take a 727 over a manual 833, just lazy and old now. wink wink

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And besides by that time the Torqueflite was so much superior to the 4-speed at least for drag racing unless you were Herb or Ronnie. [/quote] Wrong, New Process wasn't ,making any 18 spline A body 833 after 1968 work scope twocents
How do you come up with the 727 being superior to the NP833 confused shruggy [/quote]

I have two A-Body 18 spline 4-speed transmissions made through the Hustle Stuff (precursor to Direct Connection) program in 1972 to replace any destroyed units from the 68 Super Stock Darts and Barracudas. Yes the automatics were superior for drag racing as not everyone had the skills of HM and RS. My Hemi Dart got changed to an automatic in 1969 because the guy was not competitive with a 4-speed...

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Re: 1969 Dodge Dart GTS prduction numbers [Re: Rhinodart] #3194885
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out of curiosity, what happened to the 383 engines when they were replaced with the 440's ?
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Maybe they went into C body cars?? shruggy


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Originally Posted by Rhinodart

And besides by that time the Torqueflite was so much superior to the 4-speed at least for drag racing unless you were Herb or Ronnie.
Wrong, New Process wasn't ,making any 18 spline A body 833 after 1968 work scope twocents
How do you come up with the 727 being superior to the NP833 confused shruggy [/quote]

I have two A-Body 18 spline 4-speed transmissions made through the Hustle Stuff (precursor to Direct Connection) program in 1972 to replace any destroyed units from the 68 Super Stock Darts and Barracudas. Yes the automatics were superior for drag racing as not everyone had the skills of HM and RS. My Hemi Dart got changed to an automatic in 1969 because the guy was not competitive with a 4-speed... [/quote]

Actually, (CRS on my part blush) Mopar never made or had made an A body 18 spline NP833, they used the production B body 18 splines trannies with a special made Hurst shifter for those Hurst built 426 race hemi A body cars scope up


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Every NHRA record of cars that compete in both SS and Stock stick records are faster than the same cars in the automatic classes work shruggy scope grin

I race a 426 hemi motor 4 speed 1970 Cuda in NHRA A/S for a little over 2 1/2 years before weighing the car's front end weight and then the rear end weight without me in it,
it weighed right at 2160 Lbs. on the front tires and 1260 Lbs. on the rear nine inch slicks puke
Stick shift race cars are a lot more work to maintain and race than the automatic cars are, lots more whiney shruggy
I took it home after that race and took it apart and put it back in street trim sold it to a 19 yr. old college student that I became friends with later that lived in SO CA in Santa Monica, he told me he wanted to race it on the streets in L.A..
He called me after owing it around six months and wanted to know how to make it go around corners better, I ask him why he wanted to know that and ho told m the street he was racing that car on was Mullholand Drive that went from L.A. to San Ferando valley over the Santa Monica hills, a real twisty curvy steep side narrow two lane road that they raced on at night after the bars closed shock panicI told him he was crazy and stop doing that, I ended up telling him about thhe T/A Challengers and AAR Cuda for road racing and he found one of those cars an bought it to race, he became the king of the hill with that T/A. up
He survived racing on that road and later became a brain surgeon shock up shruggy

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Originally Posted by moparx
out of curiosity, what happened to the 383 engines when they were replaced with the 440's ?
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They never had their engines, they had 440's from the get go. Changes happened on the assembly line before completion...


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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
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out of curiosity, what happened to the 383 engines when they were replaced with the 440's ?
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They never had their engines, they had 440's from the get go. Changes happened on the assembly line before completion...


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Originally Posted by 6PakBee
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out of curiosity, what happened to the 383 engines when they were replaced with the 440's ?
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They never had their engines, they had 440's from the get go. Changes happened on the assembly line before completion...


Reminiscent of the A12"s.



i knew rhino would know ! thank you sir. up
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Originally Posted by moparx
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out of curiosity, what happened to the 383 engines when they were replaced with the 440's ?
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They never had their engines, they had 440's from the get go. Changes happened on the assembly line before completion...


Reminiscent of the A12"s.



i knew rhino would know ! thank you sir. up
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and i missed meeting him this year, as he shacked overnight less than a mile away from me during one of his pickup/delivery travels !
if i hadd'a only knew, it would have been great to meet him !
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