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Stainless Steel vehicle woes #3193904
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WSJ page B1-B2 has article on
Tesla’s many problems using
“full hard heat treatment,
unpainted but exterior surface polished,
and somewhat bulletproof”
stainless steel alloy
for their Cybertruck.

Just about anything you could imagine to go wrong - has gone wrong
since the effort started in year 2019.

Bugs are predicted to continue into year 2025,
although some trucks will soon be sold to customers.

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Thought this was going to be about DeLoreans.


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Great news about a guy who also builds rockets. Im sure it will get worked out... or melted down.


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Re: Stainless Steel vehicle woes [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3193950
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Those things are painful to look at.
Guess I missed that they're supposed to be stainless on top of being hideous.
Styling-wise, might as well make 'em from plywood, like some guy did for (I guess) a joke.

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article from Bloomberg News about the Tesla Cybertruck
that has less detail about stainless steel problems,
but adds details about 800 volt electrical system
and the new Panasonic 46 mm diameter, 80 mm height lithium cells:

https://www.arcamax.com/business/businessnews/s-2995156?fs

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Saw one the the road, ugly. Especially the headlight setup, it was twilight and when I saw it coming up behind me I though it was some eastern European toy truck. Nope, just the latest contribution to the list of fugly vehicles.

Not too useful as a real truck, more like a sedan with a large trunk.

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Originally Posted by topside
Those things are painful to look at.
Guess I missed that they're supposed to be stainless on top of being hideous.
Styling-wise, might as well make 'em from plywood, like some guy did for (I guess) a joke.


But they might be rather opaque to police radar with that F117 look.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Novelty yes, practicality- ?

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But, Tesla will sell a bunch of them. There are a lot of Tesla nerds (granted, a lot of them can't afford a Tesla of any kind) and Muskovites, as well as those with $$ who have to have the koolest ride in the gated community/hood, and if I recall, the presales were pretty strong.

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800 dc volts? wow I wonder what the amperage is? Want to charge into an accident in the rain with that much juice on the loose??? No thanks.

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https://www.autoblog.com/2023/11/29...-biden-to-tap-the-brakes-on-ev-mandates/

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According to The Wall Street Journal, new-car dealers
(including those who didn't sign the letter)
are sitting on a 103-day supply of EVs,
versus a 56-day supply of all cars regardless of fuel type.
Selling an EV takes about 65 days, or twice as long as a gasoline-burning model.

Ultimately, "the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships — even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives."

end quote

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“Tesla of the Seas”
Swedish Water School Bus
uses Li batteries, costs $213,000

https://www.aol.com/news/tesla-seas-students-school-sweden-091141996.html

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“Batteries are currently just too heavy for the amount of energy that they provide,” he says.
“Boats and ships are very weight sensitive. For every kilogram of diesel or gasoline, a boat needs to carry 40 kilograms of batteries to have the same energy output. Boats and ships have to carry all of their energy with them, so carrying around 40 times the weight of their energy is cost prohibitive as well as design prohibitive.”

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Any moparts members running their bass boat trolling motors with 12 volt E-bike lithium batteries?

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https://www.arcamax.com/business/businessnews/s-2998986?fs

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Musk has sought to set his rugged pickup far apart from rivals, starting with a radically angular, polarizing look and much-hyped features such as bulletproof and arrowproof doors and "armor glass" windows.

Such "apocalypse technology," as Musk referred to it, has led some analysts to question whether the truck — which starts at $60,990 — could ever achieve mainstream success the way Tesla's Model 3 and Model Y have.

The Cybertruck, which Musk boasted has the handling and speed of a sports car, has towing capacity of 11,000 pounds, a maximum payload of 2,500 pounds and a 340-mile estimated range.

"We have a car here that experts said was impossible, that experts said would never be made," Musk said. "Finally, the future will look like the future."

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needs the option of a low profile internal combustion generator that fits in the bed

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i know musk is the richest guy on the planet, but just how did he get there ?
was it all his work, or were there any "monetary helps" along the way ?
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Walter Isaacson was allowed to follow Musk around for a couple years and has completed a biography that is reviewed here:

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/ar...csons_spellbinding_elon_musk_995682.html

Note that reviewer John Tamny is not a “conventional economist”

Albert Einstein’s elementary school principal in Germany told his parents that Albert was retarded.

Elon Musk’s high school principal told his mother Elon was retarded.

Isaacson’s book recounts that Musk has “almost” run out of funds many times.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Walter Isaacson was allowed to follow Musk around for a couple years and has completed a biography that is reviewed here:

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/ar...csons_spellbinding_elon_musk_995682.html

Note that reviewer John Tamny is not a “conventional economist”

Albert Einstein’s elementary school principal in Germany told his parents that Albert was retarded.

Elon Musk’s high school principal told his mother Elon was retarded.

Isaacson’s book recounts that Musk has “almost” run out of funds many times.


The fat lady has yet to sing.

Meaning, one needs to know when to fold, as all luck eventually runs out.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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IDK, I'm thinking more along the lines of D'Ancona.


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WSJ Friday article on page B3 says Cybertruck goes from 0 to 60 mpg in 2.6 seconds.
A range extender will be offered to increase range to 470 miles at undisclosed cost..
More than one million customers have made a reservation for buying the Cybertruck.
Tesla will build production capacity at the Texas plant with an eventual plan to be able to build at a rate of 250,000 per year by the end of year 2025

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A couple of days ago I just picked up a Demon 170 for a customer at Gastonia Dodge in NC and they had over 100 Challengers and Chargers in stock, and said they are selling the crap out of them! Anyone looking of a real car check out their inventory! eek


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Originally Posted by topside
Those things are painful to look at.
Guess I missed that they're supposed to be stainless on top of being hideous.
Styling-wise, might as well make 'em from plywood, like some guy did for (I guess) a joke.


Have you noticed that EVERYTHING that every manufacturer is selling today is painful to look at. I pity the yutes of today, the man bun generation has been brainwashed to think cars and trucks are supposed to look like a pokemon, a transformer, or a stink bug. That truck will sell like hotcakes.


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