Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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Visit my Parents once a year in Moore Haven Florida. My dad takes me for a ride on Lake Okeechobee. At one marina there are 2 large yachts that sunk years ago. I know the oils/fuels were removed but why would such a tourist heavy place allow these eyesores and disease makers to just sit? I'm also amazed how people let a still floating- large yacht- 35 45 55 ft long rot at their mooring - moored behind their home. Fiberglass that is all chalk and weathering away. Trees from land growing limbs THRU the cabin. Trees and bushes growing on a boat. I told my dad some people let a valuable car rot in a field- in Florida people let what was once a valuable boat rot at its mooring.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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11/15/23 02:25 PM
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IMO, anyone with enough wealth to own the vessel in the first place, most likely has it titled in an untouchable corporate entity, and getting reimbursed for removal after getting a court order/paperwork to authorize is very cumbersome, tedious, and outside most bureaucrat's comfort zone. It is an eyesore, it is common, and I am not in full agreement all waste hazards are removed until they have already leaked.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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https://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/2023/10/16/will-florida-take-steps-remove-derelict-boats-faster/#:~:text=During%20the%20fiscal%20year%20that,the%20waters%20off%20Pinellas%20County.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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11/15/23 06:18 PM
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anyone with enough wealth to own the vessel in the first place, You're making a big assumption here. Money comes and goes. And Florida is one of those places where today you made $100K and the future is bright so you go on a spending spree but you don't make a dime for the next two years. Boat upkeep is ridiculous - I met a guy with a decent size boat in West Palm who told me it cost him $300 every two weeks to have the thing washed - which is a must to keep the salt off it. Having the bottom scraped every year is like $20k.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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around here it's junk yards sitting in yards, Flordia has junk boats
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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anyone with enough wealth to own the vessel in the first place, You're making a big assumption here. Money comes and goes. And Florida is one of those places where today you made $100K and the future is bright so you go on a spending spree but you don't make a dime for the next two years. Boat upkeep is ridiculous - I met a guy with a decent size boat in West Palm who told me it cost him $300 every two weeks to have the thing washed - which is a must to keep the salt off it. Having the bottom scraped every year is like $20k. "IMO, anyone with enough wealth to own the vessel in the first place, most likely has it titled in an untouchable corporate entity, ...." I then stand by my "assumption".
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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It is not just Florida. Most commercially traveled water ways in the PNW have sea junk scattered about.
IWith respect to FL, I always figured a lot of those boats were hurricane damaged and/or obtained by an absentee owner that went AWOL. You can buy a large, crappy cabin cruiser for 10k or less up here. Some people buy boats that have no powertrain for an inexpensive living quarters ( Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, etc).
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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11/16/23 09:11 AM
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Limited cheap dock space, prohibitions/ordnances against live aboards, time limits on tie ups, shore power, sanitary waste disposal, etc in Florida are strong impediments against low-cost water living in Florida. Having a boat with no propulsion is a recipe for disaster when a hurricane approaches. I agree, hurricanes are IMO the greatest catalyst for the abandoned submerged watercraft. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-ian-florida-gulf-coast-boats-left-derelict/
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Why is Florida so lax on semi sunk pleasure boats?
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around here it's junk yards sitting in yards, Flordia has junk boats Many of the boats in Florida that are semi sunk are not the result of a hurricane. I believe there's an incredibly irresponsible attitude to boat ownership there and laws that hold no one accountable. I couldn't read the link to the article unless I sign up- but I know even when they track down the owner that owner simply ignores all demands and the state/county are responsible for removing. Why cant there be jail time for irresponsible owners?
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