Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: CMcAllister]
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One of the things I will never be without on a race car, accumulator. That’s great, but what about all the other cars and equipment that we change oil on?
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: MoonshineMattK]
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The main killer I see is extended oil change intervals. Engines burning oil went from a rare occasion to a regular thing over the last 15 years. First problem of the last 20 years is the manufacturers claims of 10-15k mile intervals- to lower cost of ownership. Virtually no ones driving conditions qualify for this "Extended" interval but yet EVERYONE has set this as their standard. Yes- oil is better now than in 1999 but for gods sake- it does way more now than cool and lubricate. Then there's the low tension oil rings- these rings/lands don't do well with neglected maintenance. But the big one- American car owners are CHEAP snide and ignorant. They think the purchase price and insurance is all they need to pay for. Oil changes? Just a way for the "Mechanic" to steal my money. But really- most newer cars NEVER have their hood opened by their owner. Oil level runs low, engine begins running poorly. Car taken to shop and engine is diagnosed as destroyed due to lack of oil. Owner then is mad at the shop and the maker of the car. Car owner has a phone that cost a week and a halfs take home but refused proper oil changes because they cost $80.
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
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11/15/23 07:35 PM
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One of the things I will never be without on a race car, accumulator. That’s great, but what about all the other cars and equipment that we change oil on? Well, if you leave your street car sit for a week, or weeks, between uses, or if it has valve springs with pressures of multiple hundreds of pounds over the nose of the lobe, or if it accelerates or decelerates at over 2 Gs which may cause the pickup to become uncovered, it would still be a good idea. Otherwise, it's probably not needed. But the engine will no doubt do better if it has oil under pressure in critical areas before it ever turns over.
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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11/16/23 10:37 AM
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I read the part about people actually believing that you shouldn't prefill the oil filter, because that oil will hit the galleries BEFORE it goes thru the filter media, thus damaging the bearings. Vs. starting up with NO oil being delivered to the bearings while the filter fills up from the oil pump. How can anyone be that clueless, and repeat this nonsense online? And how can enuff people be that gullible as to repeat it? These must be the ones who have magnets on their fuel lines, little propeller blades under the throttle blades, and spark plugs with 8 electrodes each. Obviously, running brand new, clean oil fresh from the bottle thru a filter does not clean it. It's sad that this is even being discussed.
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: DaveRS23]
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11/16/23 12:53 PM
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Interesting take on the video. Without even seeing it. Best way for him to make money is to stoke his fire on YouTube and creating clicks with publicity(Think P.T. Barnum) does just that. I don’t care what else he does to get paid, passive income from that is what everyone wants. In turn it leads to other opportunities as well. Politicians and celebrities do this sort of thing all the time, naturally lots of people dont mind what people think of them, only that they think of them. Drawing people like you in to promote his brand for free and build his name recognition is icing in the cake. No major oil company is sending out dirty oil, at least not trace enough to cause engine damage. Lawsuit bonanza in the trillions if true. I gather this point from the comments here. I doubt a small oil company would sell you such either. If you had a way to pulse an oil pump, let’s say if it were electric so you could control it at will with something, you wouldn’t do so. You wouldn’t want gulps of air going through your engine like that, yet this clickbait wants us to believe you’d be ok with it doing a filter change. I’ll go on living just fine without watching this or worrying about any of my engines dying from a filled oil filter. You are free to have at it.
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/16/23 08:15 PM
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Interesting take on the video. Without even seeing it. Best way for him to make money is to stoke his fire on YouTube and creating clicks with publicity(Think P.T. Barnum) does just that. I don’t care what else he does to get paid, passive income from that is what everyone wants. In turn it leads to other opportunities as well. Politicians and celebrities do this sort of thing all the time, naturally lots of people dont mind what people think of them, only that they think of them. Drawing people like you in to promote his brand for free and build his name recognition is icing in the cake. No major oil company is sending out dirty oil, at least not trace enough to cause engine damage. Lawsuit bonanza in the trillions if true. I gather this point from the comments here. I doubt a small oil company would sell you such either. If you had a way to pulse an oil pump, let’s say if it were electric so you could control it at will with something, you wouldn’t do so. You wouldn’t want gulps of air going through your engine like that, yet this clickbait wants us to believe you’d be ok with it doing a filter change. I’ll go on living just fine without watching this or worrying about any of my engines dying from a filled oil filter. You are free to have at it. I'm not sure where you're coming from on this. You seem to be taking me to task for a position that I do not hold. Unlike yours, most responses to the link have been positive. Good luck with your opinion on this. Whatever it is.
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
[Re: DaveRS23]
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11/16/23 08:49 PM
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Re: Very interesting info on pre oiling oil filters
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11/17/23 12:25 AM
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I read the part about people actually believing that you shouldn't prefill the oil filter, because that oil will hit the galleries BEFORE it goes thru the filter media, thus damaging the bearings. Vs. starting up with NO oil being delivered to the bearings while the filter fills up from the oil pump. How can anyone be that clueless, and repeat this nonsense online? And how can enuff people be that gullible as to repeat it? These must be the ones who have magnets on their fuel lines, little propeller blades under the throttle blades, and spark plugs with 8 electrodes each. Obviously, running brand new, clean oil fresh from the bottle thru a filter does not clean it. It's sad that this is even being discussed. If pouring fresh oil into your filter introduces dirt into your engine that could cause damage, you really need to examine your house keeping habits.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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