Hey Mr., did you learn anything?
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These are Hurricane Ian's last year's storm damaged wreckage in the Ft Meyers, Florida area. Like, what are you thinking having rare cars near/on the Ocean, at ground level, with a hurricane approaching, and not even bother to move them to safer ground? https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/cla...782ab3d66447eaae1e03a1161e5c23&ei=41
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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It was my understanding that the more valuable cars were moved but there wasn't time to get all the cars out.
So they get restored one more time, it's only a problem if the car is an unrestored original survivor.
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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Regardless, he was lucky the car(s) is restorable. When you are on the shoreline, 20? miles inland can make all the difference in the world. I'm finding it hard to believe lack of time was the issue, which makes me wonder, what cars were more valuable and less replaceable?
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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Regardless, he was lucky the car(s) is restorable. When you are on the shoreline, 20? miles inland can make all the difference in the world. I'm finding it hard to believe lack of time was the issue, which makes me wonder, what cars were more valuable and less replaceable? Another Daytona and Superbird...
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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So the answer to my question seems to be "No".
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.
Tony owns both cars now, he did not own the cars during the hurricane.
The owner at the time had transported two of the other Aero Cars away, and was on his way back for the other two when the evacuation order was initiated, so he put them both on to of the lifts. The storm was suppose to just graze Fort Myers, instead it turned right at the end and hit them head on with a huge ocean surge. That knocked the cars off the lifts. The owner at the time was in the garage trying to keep the cars from hitting each other, but almost got crushed. His wife screaming at him to get out of the water, he finally relented and let them go.
Then we all know how the cars turned out. Then a friend of his Tony bought the cars outright, no insurance money was involved.
And now they are both being restored.
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Re: Hey Mr, did you learn anything?
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No I have not seen the video, and now I read Tony was not the owner that made the decision to have the cars left in harm's way on the shoreline at ground level. Regarding on waiting till an evacuation order is given when one has valuables on the shoreline is idiotic and nearly unforgiveable by a person of means. The fact the owner is reported to have chosen to ride out the storm onsite says it all. Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same. There was plenty of time to take preventative action. Playing the odds resulted in the preventable damage. iMO a unibody car many decades old that has been submerged in salt water for hours will never be fully restored unless at the least it's been fully flushed/tanked in water and then maybe e coated.
BTW I changed the OP title to not disparage Tony in any way.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Hey Mr, did you learn anything?
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No I have not seen the video, and now I read Tony was not the owner that made the decision to have the cars left in harm's way on the shoreline at ground level. Regarding on waiting till an evacuation order is given when one has valuables on the shoreline is idiotic and nearly unforgiveable by a person of means. The fact the owner is reported to have chosen to ride out the storm onsite says it all. Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same. There was plenty of time to take preventative action. Playing the odds resulted in the preventable damage. iMO a unibody car many decades old that has been submerged in salt water for hours will never be fully restored unless at the least it's been fully flushed/tanked in water and then maybe e coated.
BTW I changed the OP title to not disparage Tony in any way.
When you forget how that storm path was predicted to go, and how it ended up going, your comments are way out of line. The storm was predicted to run up the western coast line, nearly 600 miles in length, and was predicted to make that right turn everyplace along that coast line, but was mostly predicted to turn at least 100 miles north of where it did. Also, after it made that right turn, it was expected to travel across the entire state and exit the state on the east shore line. Nearly the entire state was in the hit zone. There was time to move some cars, but really, there was no idea which direction was the safe bet. Most predictions were saying towards the southern tip was likely the safest place. Fort Meyers is on the southern tip, but south Florida is low land. The storm did hit north of Fort Meyers, but the storm serge is what caused the damage. Since the storm made that right turn sooner then expected, time to move anything was pretty short, even if you knew which direction you had to take them. Before you condemn the man, look at the State of Florida and tell me which direction you would have moved your 4 cars? He managed to get 2 of them moved. The property the cars were on was high ground in the area, but not high enough for the 20+ feet high storm waves. The waves blew through the back of the garage, and blew the cars off the 4 post lifts and through the garage doors. That property has survived several hurricanes.
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Re: Hey Mr, did you learn anything?
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No I have not seen the video, and now I read Tony was not the owner that made the decision to have the cars left in harm's way on the shoreline at ground level. Regarding on waiting till an evacuation order is given when one has valuables on the shoreline is idiotic and nearly unforgiveable by a person of means. The fact the owner is reported to have chosen to ride out the storm onsite says it all. Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same. There was plenty of time to take preventative action. Playing the odds resulted in the preventable damage. iMO a unibody car many decades old that has been submerged in salt water for hours will never be fully restored unless at the least it's been fully flushed/tanked in water and then maybe e coated.
BTW I changed the OP title to not disparage Tony in any way.
When you forget how that storm path was predicted to go, and how it ended up going, your comments are way out of line. The storm was predicted to run up the western coast line, nearly 600 miles in length, and was predicted to make that right turn everyplace along that coast line, but was mostly predicted to turn at least 100 miles north of where it did. Also, after it made that right turn, it was expected to travel across the entire state and exit the state on the east shore line. Nearly the entire state was in the hit zone. There was time to move some cars, but really, there was no idea which direction was the safe bet. Most predictions were saying towards the southern tip was likely the safest place. Fort Meyers is on the southern tip, but south Florida is low land. The storm did hit north of Fort Meyers, but the storm serge is what caused the damage. Since the storm made that right turn sooner then expected, time to move anything was pretty short, even if you knew which direction you had to take them. Before you condemn the man, look at the State of Florida and tell me which direction you would have moved your 4 cars? He managed to get 2 of them moved. The property the cars were on was high ground in the area, but not high enough for the 20+ feet high storm waves. The waves blew through the back of the garage, and blew the cars off the 4 post lifts and through the garage doors. That property has survived several hurricanes. Agree not your problem. If you feel so strongly about this then buy the cars and protect them. When hurricanes happen bad stuff happens. Yea two valuable MOPARs were damaged, But they are just material things and they both can be repaired. Get over it.
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Re: Hey Tony, did you learn anything?
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The ONLY thing that matters, is the owner and his family survived the storm. Everything else doesn't matter.
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Re: Hey Mr, did you learn anything?
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No I have not seen the video, and now I read Tony was not the owner that made the decision to have the cars left in harm's way on the shoreline at ground level. Regarding on waiting till an evacuation order is given when one has valuables on the shoreline is idiotic and nearly unforgiveable by a person of means. The fact the owner is reported to have chosen to ride out the storm onsite says it all. Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same. There was plenty of time to take preventative action. Playing the odds resulted in the preventable damage. iMO a unibody car many decades old that has been submerged in salt water for hours will never be fully restored unless at the least it's been fully flushed/tanked in water and then maybe e coated.
BTW I changed the OP title to not disparage Tony in any way.
Dang. I bet you need a parachute to come down off your high horse every once in a great while.
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Re: Hey Mr, did you learn anything?
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No I have not seen the video, and now I read Tony was not the owner that made the decision to have the cars left in harm's way on the shoreline at ground level. Regarding on waiting till an evacuation order is given when one has valuables on the shoreline is idiotic and nearly unforgiveable by a person of means. The fact the owner is reported to have chosen to ride out the storm onsite says it all. Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same. There was plenty of time to take preventative action. Playing the odds resulted in the preventable damage. iMO a unibody car many decades old that has been submerged in salt water for hours will never be fully restored unless at the least it's been fully flushed/tanked in water and then maybe e coated.
BTW I changed the OP title to not disparage Tony in any way.
When you forget how that storm path was predicted to go, and how it ended up going, your comments are way out of line. The storm was predicted to run up the western coast line, nearly 600 miles in length, and was predicted to make that right turn everyplace along that coast line, but was mostly predicted to turn at least 100 miles north of where it did. Also, after it made that right turn, it was expected to travel across the entire state and exit the state on the east shore line. Nearly the entire state was in the hit zone. There was time to move some cars, but really, there was no idea which direction was the safe bet. Most predictions were saying towards the southern tip was likely the safest place. Fort Meyers is on the southern tip, but south Florida is low land. The storm did hit north of Fort Meyers, but the storm serge is what caused the damage. Since the storm made that right turn sooner then expected, time to move anything was pretty short, even if you knew which direction you had to take them. Before you condemn the man, look at the State of Florida and tell me which direction you would have moved your 4 cars? He managed to get 2 of them moved. The property the cars were on was high ground in the area, but not high enough for the 20+ feet high storm waves. The waves blew through the back of the garage, and blew the cars off the 4 post lifts and through the garage doors. That property has survived several hurricanes. Let me respond: 1. Likely you did not read my prior comment;" Regarding hurricanes being predictable is very ignorant, and no two have ever been the same.'"made as resident of Florida since 1955. 2, Hurricane season is the only real reliable prediction, and again for the third? time, having valuable cars on ground level on the shoreline, lifts or not that stand the risk of being in harm's way, is IMO rather negligent, whether insured, replaceable, valuable etc 3. waiting for authorities to instruct one what to in the above situation is wholly ignorant 4. The reported fact the owner choose to ride out the storm IMO says it all. 5. My main altruistic interests here is for those not affected by this situation to learn from it and never make the same similar poor choices. 6., It appears much of what I have shared has fallen on deaf ears, and why I won't waste a tear on their future poor choices. 6. A few things I would have done different, I would have done more, sooner, and gotten farther from the coastline. There are no guarantees, but doing nothing or too little is usually a higher risk when you reside near the coast. 7. The point of my comments were exactly to get "out of line" of the storm, or suffer the consequences, the Tony inclusion was a mistake and quickly corrected.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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