I took 2 rims to Discount Tire, line of people waiting for the 2 counter guys. When it comes my turn and I tell him I have 2 rims I need balanced, carry in, don’t even need to remove or replace on car. He says he needs to look at them, sure no problem. After a quick look he tells me he can’t balance them because they have “sidewall wear” and are 6 yrs old. Then proceeds to try and sell me new tires. I say no thanks, and he quips, “Well I saved you $20”
I drive over to Tires Plus, this guy didn’t even ask a question, they weren’t busy and I was in and out of there with the 2 rims balanced for $28 in 20min.
So I guess I'm risking my life with these worn out tires.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: BDW]
#3179366 09/29/2305:01 PM09/29/2305:01 PM
Yes, there are some chains here that unless your tires look nearly new they will refuse to service them.
They won't let you buy anything less than 4 new tires otherwise your car could handle 'dangerously'.
If you buy 4 new tires they will tell you they can't warranty them unless you also get a front end alignment to go with it
Then we get to the employees that work there that use impact guns on everything and think they are NASCAR pit crew guys. Cross threaded lug nuts or broken wheel studs are your fault not theirs.
Last edited by Neil; 09/29/2309:28 PM.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: Neil]
#3179375 09/29/2305:21 PM09/29/2305:21 PM
I took for tires, that I got fro free, to Les Schwab and I had removed the wheels and tire from the vehicle for swap out and balance. The counter guy comes out and looks at them and says $28 a tire and $4 disposal fee. I smile and say thanks but no thanks. Go to local tire shop, Star Tire and Wheel and get quoted $60, sweet. I leave and go back a couple hours later to pick them up, they tell me I got the deal of the day? I say why? the owner say it should have been double that.
I think I should start a mobile tire business.
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Living within your means makes life pretty easy.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: BDW]
#3179421 09/29/2308:22 PM09/29/2308:22 PM
in his defense, those tires do look like crap and are old.
They do look a bit questionable IMO and it may be the camera angle but the wear appears uneven IE: worn more on the side with the circled areas. Another thing to be aware of is a companies liability. 2 weeks from now you have a blow out that takes out a bus full of kids. The root cause is blamed on the tire. Suddenly the tire shop has lawyers knocking on their door saying they should have informed the customer pf the tires condition. Now maybe the guy hit something that caused the issue. But all the lawyers see is as Joe's tires is at fault and a 100.00 tire balance turns into MEGA dollar s for defense etc. I have turned many jobs away for that very reason. Customer says just replace the wheel cylinder/ caliper that's leaking. I say get it out of my shop. Not wanting to be offensive to the OP just looking at things from the other side of the issue.
Discount just covers their rear, the tire didn't look good to them so they didn't do the work. In their mind that is better than doing the work, then you have an issue with the tire and blame them. I am sure they have been down this road several thousand times and have arrived at the procedure they use for a reason.
I really like discount tire, I have connections and can get tires at cost and install for free. But the service, speed, and warranty from discount is worth it. They rotated and balanced the tires on my wifes old durango in 12 minutes one time. I have been able to watch the grass grow at too many other tire shops to go anywhere else.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: Bad340fish]
#3179524 09/30/2309:44 AM09/30/2309:44 AM
Every business is concerned with liability. After being indoctrinated with legal propaganda on the tube that starts "were you a victim of something that wasn't your fault" a large percentage of the population thinks there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow any time something goes wrong. I don't blame business' one bit. First rule of any organism is self-preservation.
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: 6PakBee]
#3179577 09/30/2301:45 PM09/30/2301:45 PM
Agree with you and Bad340fish, not worth the liability for a few bucks labor for most big companies nowadays. If you look closer at the tire there's a considerable difference in wear of the outer edge TWI's on that side compared to the other too. General Tire (Made in USA) has it somewhat figured out with this at least with the center wear indicator. The tire alignment indicators are also pretty smart tech.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: A12]
#3179578 09/30/2301:48 PM09/30/2301:48 PM
EV’s are much heavier so the road pavement will get worse quicker. Worse pavement will stress the EV tires more.
Like a snake swallowing its tail, etc.
But we have nothing to worry about since all 50 States keep their road surfaces in identical shape, and all 50 will seamlessly increase road maintenance.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: BDW]
#3179637 09/30/2305:05 PM09/30/2305:05 PM
I had a slow leak in one of the reproduction bias plies on my Belvedere. I took the wheel off and called Wheel Works because we have had decent service there in the past with my truck and my wife's Honda. I ask the guy if the can fix a slow leak in a bias ply and he immediately goes on the offensive, putting on his lawyer hat. He asks, "How old is the tire?", probably thinking it was from the 60s or 70s. I told him it's a reproduction bias ply from 2017. He says he can't do anything with it and that nobody will touch an old tire. I told him it's only 6 years old. He did end up referring me to a tire place that was not too far away. I called them, they said "Sure, come on down. No appointment needed." I get there and a guy greets me before I even get out of the truck. He takes the tire and puts it in their tub of water. The valve stem was the culprit. He swaps the valve stem, charges $25 and I'm down the road.
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Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: lilcuda]
#3179647 09/30/2305:41 PM09/30/2305:41 PM
Also lets law enforcement know its time to talk to you.
Just a sign people are getting more ignorant and lazy as to not to know when there tires are getting thin.
Originally Posted by A12
Agree with you and Bad340fish, not worth the liability for a few bucks labor for most big companies nowadays. If you look closer at the tire there's a considerable difference in wear of the outer edge TWI's on that side compared to the other too. General Tire (Made in USA) has it somewhat figured out with this at least with the center wear indicator. The tire alignment indicators are also pretty smart tech.
STOP POTATO HATE!
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#3179718 09/30/2310:23 PM09/30/2310:23 PM
It could also be a double edge sword if for instance it reads "Replace .........Tire" and you don't have many miles on the car? Most people don't know what TWI even means or how to check or use them. Even if the cords were showing most people would not pay attention so this way the manufacture wins or loses with REPLACE.......TIRE as you can't say they didn't warn you that you're driving in the danger zone. Honda used to and maybe still does emboss KICKSTARTER right on the kickstarter and people that knew what it was would laugh and think what does Honda think people are stupid? Come to find out passengers that would climb on board would be told to "fold down the (passenger) foot-peg" and make the mistake of folding the kickstarter out thinking that's what the driver meant. Sure it's not noticeable by the passenger but now it's not Honda's liability and it IS LABELED as to what it is. I can name a few other examples like why a motorcycle has a locking gas cap and why do they have open and close throttle cables. LAWYERS on both sides of the fence. Many a case has been lost when a judge rules that a manufacture had a "duty to warn" for the most stupid things. Remember the HOT COFFEE, so now you're going to see things like this REPLACE........TIRE and HOT COFFEE and KICKSTARTER on the obvious kickstarter, Beware of Dog, and on and on.
Re: Business must be good, tire balance
[Re: A12]
#3179742 09/30/2311:43 PM09/30/2311:43 PM
My tire store which is pretty big and three locations will mount anything Ive taken them within reason and always beats Discount Tire by min. 20% for the same tire.
They do loads of AG related tires and repairs most simply come down to will they hold air and stay together. They dont seem too worried about any liability issues in that area and many travel the roads on a semi regular basis but under 30mph of course.