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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3170801
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Told a friend about a nice trailer local the other day.

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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: pittsburghracer] #3170869
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Told a friend about a nice trailer local the other day.



I would buy that today. But the 2500 miles between us would be a deal breaker .

Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3173621
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Still never met anyone who said "man I wish my garage was smaller or my trailer was shorter." I own three trailers an 18' open, a 28' enclosed and a 34' enclosed. More space is never a bad thing unless its a storage issue I suppose.


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3173632
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
Also giving some thoughts to one of these.

My fear is the steel decks get slick when wet! So, I wonder if the car will move around in transport,,,,OR make it difficult to load / unload in wet conditions

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/253765690782008/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0afd0f9f-5ab5-453f-8a0c-d25d24e40233





I have had steel deck trailers for decades, yes the get slick when wet, but my ramps had anti-skid coating on them and once the rear tires actually got on the trailer and off the ramp there were no issues. Of course you can always winch the car on if it is slick, and ALL trailers should have a winch on them... twocents


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: Al_Alguire] #3173635
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Still never met anyone who said "man I wish my garage was smaller or my trailer was shorter." I own three trailers an 18' open, a 28' enclosed and a 34' enclosed. More space is never a bad thing unless its a storage issue I suppose.

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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: Rhinodart] #3173647
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
Originally Posted by gtx6970
Also giving some thoughts to one of these.

My fear is the steel decks get slick when wet! So, I wonder if the car will move around in transport,,,,OR make it difficult to load / unload in wet conditions

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/253765690782008/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0afd0f9f-5ab5-453f-8a0c-d25d24e40233





I have had steel deck trailers for decades, yes the get slick when wet, but my ramps had anti-skid coating on them and once the rear tires actually got on the trailer and off the ramp there were no issues. Of course you can always winch the car on if it is slick, and ALL trailers should have a winch on them... twocents


This. I never had an issue with a car moving around during a transport.


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3173654
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We sprayed bedliner - the real stuff - on my steel deck open trailer, and did the flat tops of the fenders as well; haven't slipped since.
BTW, putting Clearbra on the forward-facing areas of the fenders has kept them nice.

Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3173739
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Sold my enclosed last year and have been in the market for an open. They are wanting crazy prices for trailers. I may have to hold off and wait for the economy to get better.


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: Rhinodart] #3173782
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
Originally Posted by gtx6970
Also giving some thoughts to one of these.

My fear is the steel decks get slick when wet! So, I wonder if the car will move around in transport,,,,OR make it difficult to load / unload in wet conditions

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/253765690782008/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0afd0f9f-5ab5-453f-8a0c-d25d24e40233





I have had steel deck trailers for decades, yes the get slick when wet, but my ramps had anti-skid coating on them and once the rear tires actually got on the trailer and off the ramp there were no issues. Of course you can always winch the car on if it is slick, and ALL trailers should have a winch on them... twocents



I plan to have a winch on it / in it regardless of type of trailer so thats not a problem. My concern was it moving around if get caught in the rain, A friend of mine has a steel deck open trailer and he told me it gets real slick in the rain. And loading it under its own power is out of the question, Thus a winch is mandatory.

Im open to steel deck, wood deck, steel frame or even an aluminum frame if price is right. Hell im not against an enclosed if price is right.

My concerns with an enclosed is GVW , seems most of the enclosed under 22 ft or less are only 7000 gvw . Where as most ( but not all ) 24 and up are at least 10,000 gvw

There is a dealer in Glendale I've been talking to that has brand new 20ft opens ( that are 18ft with additional 2 ft dovetail ) for $4000 and for the moment is my 1st choice . Steel frame, wood deck. 2 ft steel dovetail. 5 ft ramps ( shown )

I dont actually need it until next spring. So Im in no rush.


And yes, storing it is a concern.


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3173785
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I was interested in a 2018 20ft box that had the 3 ft Vnose on it for $9500 , Thats at the top of my budget but it sold before I could make up my mind if I wanted to go that route

it seems anything enclosed of similar length and condition under $10k sells fairly easy/quickly.


One of my concerns with an enclosed, is weight on the truck. Its a 2012 ram 1500 quad cab 2wd. I dont want to overload it by any means.
Going longer only to get additional indoor storage is of zero concern. This is to transport the car with maybe a jack and spare tires and nothing more.
My car is about 17ft end to end. So that rules out an 18ft enclosed so Im looking 20ft , prefer a 22ft if I can find one, 24 ft is maximum (primarily thinking about GVW issues going that long )

A friend of mine has offered me his 20ft enclosed for a heck of a deal, problem is,,,its 2200 miles away.

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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3173834
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
I was interested in a 2018 20ft box that had the 3 ft Vnose on it for $9500 , Thats at the top of my budget but it sold before I could make up my mind if I wanted to go that route

it seems anything enclosed of similar length and condition under $10k sells fairly easy/quickly.


One of my concerns with an enclosed, is weight on the truck. Its a 2012 ram 1500 quad cab 2wd. I dont want to overload it by any means.
Going longer only to get additional indoor storage is of zero concern. This is to transport the car with maybe a jack and spare tires and nothing more.
My car is about 17ft end to end. So that rules out an 18ft enclosed so Im looking 20ft , prefer a 22ft if I can find one, 24 ft is maximum (primarily thinking about GVW issues going that long )

A friend of mine has offered me his 20ft enclosed for a heck of a deal, problem is,,,its 2200 miles away.


Your truck can haul any trailer up to 28' with ease. I hauled a 29' v-nose with a 2000 Ram quad cab 4x4 5.9 gas for years, no issues going over the mountains in PA to CO. I towed a 34' LQ trailer with my 2015 Ram that weighed around 10K lbs and it was definitely at it's limits but would still do it without much complaint...


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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3174203
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
Originally Posted by Rhinodart
Originally Posted by gtx6970
Also giving some thoughts to one of these.

My fear is the steel decks get slick when wet! So, I wonder if the car will move around in transport,,,,OR make it difficult to load / unload in wet conditions

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/253765690782008/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0afd0f9f-5ab5-453f-8a0c-d25d24e40233





I have had steel deck trailers for decades, yes the get slick when wet, but my ramps had anti-skid coating on them and once the rear tires actually got on the trailer and off the ramp there were no issues. Of course you can always winch the car on if it is slick, and ALL trailers should have a winch on them... twocents



I plan to have a winch on it / in it regardless of type of trailer so thats not a problem. My concern was it moving around if get caught in the rain, A friend of mine has a steel deck open trailer and he told me it gets real slick in the rain. And loading it under its own power is out of the question, Thus a winch is mandatory.

Im open to steel deck, wood deck, steel frame or even an aluminum frame if price is right. Hell im not against an enclosed if price is right.

My concerns with an enclosed is GVW , seems most of the enclosed under 22 ft or less are only 7000 gvw . Where as most ( but not all ) 24 and up are at least 10,000 gvw

There is a dealer in Glendale I've been talking to that has brand new 20ft opens ( that are 18ft with additional 2 ft dovetail ) for $4000 and for the moment is my 1st choice . Steel frame, wood deck. 2 ft steel dovetail. 5 ft ramps ( shown )

I dont actually need it until next spring. So Im in no rush.


And yes, storing it is a concern.



Mr Mendoza’s prices were decent enough for me to burn some fuel to go visit him when we were shopping for a 14’ trailer for our RZR. The wiring needed a little help as the metal tabs they used to route the wiring through were razor sharp and we lost our running lights on our first trip to Utah. Spent a little time with a dremel and some wiring protector to remedy that. I’d also suggest that on a “new” trailer purchase to check the wheel bearings. We had one axle that the hub temps were a bit higher and I noted pulling the bearing caps that the grease was notably darker. Loosened the nut a flat and they’ve been great since. Between Utah trips and SoDak we’ve probably put 8k miles on it and tire wear is spot on so the build quality seems to be a-ok. On the wheel bearing deal I’m betting about any manufacturer simply gets the axles ready to run and build, install, ship.

Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: J_BODY] #3174249
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Originally Posted by J_BODY


Mr Mendoza’s prices were decent enough for me to burn some fuel to go visit him when we were shopping for a 14’ trailer for our RZR. The wiring needed a little help as the metal tabs they used to route the wiring through were razor sharp and we lost our running lights on our first trip to Utah. Spent a little time with a dremel and some wiring protector to remedy that. I’d also suggest that on a “new” trailer purchase to check the wheel bearings. We had one axle that the hub temps were a bit higher and I noted pulling the bearing caps that the grease was notably darker. Loosened the nut a flat and they’ve been great since. Between Utah trips and SoDak we’ve probably put 8k miles on it and tire wear is spot on so the build quality seems to be a-ok. On the wheel bearing deal I’m betting about any manufacturer simply gets the axles ready to run and build, install, ship.



Thanks for the feedback,

Im between this new open and a used enclosed.
Open is 2 hrs away.
enclosed is 2200 miles away. But I am seriously giving thought on how to get it to AZ

Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: gtx6970] #3176298
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I have been shopping for a 20' enclosed, but not seriously yet. When I look at the price at used vs. new I don't think I'll consider used unless one falls in my lap. Everything new and a warranty vs. spending roughly the same money for used just makes no sense.

On the other hand I am also shopping for a used diesel pusher as new is completely out of the question, financially. The problem is that many, if not most, of the vintage I am looking at (early 2000s) have 4-5k tow capacity. Some are 10k. On top of that, our credit union will loan on that age, BUT they use NADA/JDPower for value and it really appears that they are trying to set the market, not report on it. Some values are in line with the market while some are VERY low and condition has no bearing. So, the search continues. Prices and available units get better when the weather gets cold.

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Re: Looking at trailers - so many options and choices [Re: Jim_Lusk] #3176338
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I have an 18' open and a 28' enclosed. Even my open has both axles with trailer brakes, a 4500 lb. Winch, extra lighting due to people almost merging behind me at night due to the trailer being black. Still use it for quick hauls or misc stuff. The 28' is great for winter storage and big enough for the golf cart, equipment and car during race season.


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