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Marines lose F-35 figher #3176105
09/18/23 05:14 PM
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This makes no sense to me. How does the military lose an F-35. I have close to 5000 hours flight time in military aircraft. Why wasn’t the transponder on? You are required to have the transponder on when flying in controlled airspace. The only time we turned off the transponder was in combat. For the none aviation guys the transponder emits a radio single that allows air traffic control to track the aircraft.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...officials-crowdsourcing-tips-to-find-it/

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Dabee] #3176106
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Must be the new way they are making their way to a war zone. work


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Dabee] #3176113
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It is not lost,
probably just being borrowed to go pick up this.....

https://www.businessinsider.com/missing-nuclear-bomb-georgia-coast-still-not-found-2023-9?op=1

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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Dabee] #3176125
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Ok, I don't know where it is and haven't seen it.

Now tell me why if I find it, I should not cut the canopy within 3" of the edge. work


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: jcc] #3176126
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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Dabee] #3176127
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80 Million dollars and they couldn't spring for a LoJack?


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 3hundred] #3176128
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Did they check near the Tetanic?


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: jcc] #3176157
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Sounds like another "test" session for new military hardware to me.

Fly the plane to this Cordiant, set the autopilot, and eject. We will pick you up. A few minutes later: "Darned, there was a mishap, the piolet ejected, and was treated for minor injuries. The plane has flat disappeared. The mishap is under investigation. We will let you knw if we find anything."

Then into the other mic, "Tell the boys the test was successful."

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Wreck of missing F-35 found as Marines ground flights

The wreckage of a missing F-35 jet that disappeared Sunday has been found less than 100 miles north of Charleston, a South Carolina military base announced Monday afternoon.

“Personnel from Joint Base Charleston and Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, in close coordination with local authorities, have located a debris field in Williamsburg County,” Joint Base Charleston announced in a statement on Facebook Monday afternoon. “The mishap is currently under investigation, and we are unable to provide additional details to preserve the integrity of the investigative process.”


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 3hundred] #3176166
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It was probably at the local pawn shop. OR its just like the Chinese SPY Balloon that now were told did not have its spy gear turned on, no transponder OR the Trans-ponder identified as something else... shruggy

Does seem odd. We will probably never know if it was human error, a bad actor or ET phoning home.

What can we do but joke when they ask the public for help to find there 80 million dollar next gen fighter?


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3176171
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I've usually gone with the old saying never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

Not anymore. After a certain level of stupidity, natural selection would have taken these people out. If not stupidity then it must be malice.

I want to see the debris and verify it's actually from a plane and not from Billy Bob's metal recycling.


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Originally Posted by Dabee
This makes no sense to me. How does the military lose an F-35. I have close to 5000 hours flight time in military aircraft. Why wasn’t the transponder on? You are required to have the transponder on when flying in controlled airspace. The only time we turned off the transponder was in combat. For the none aviation guys the transponder emits a radio single that allows air traffic control to track the aircraft.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...officials-crowdsourcing-tips-to-find-it/


The news said the transponder was off or malfunctioning, who knows why he ejected, could it be total lack of electrical power? shruggy


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Rhinodart] #3176209
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The news said the transponder was off or malfunctioning,

Pilot forgot to put his cell phone in airplane mode. blush


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: GomangoCuda] #3176223
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Now found crashed, pilot left on Auto Pilot when he/she ejected.

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The aircraft was a vertical take-off version used by in the Marine Corps.

The jet is prized for its stealth qualities that make it difficult to detect by radar.

“We are aware of the mishap and are thankful the pilot ejected safely,” Lockheed said earlier Monday. “We are supporting the government’s investigation.”

The F-35 program, the most expensive U.S. weapons program ever, is projected to cost $412 billion in development and acquisition, plus an additional $1.2 trillion to operate and maintain the fleet over more than 60 years. A single jet can cost more than $160 million, depending on the variant. They are flown by the Air Force and Navy as well as the Marines.

It’s not the first time an F-35 has been in trouble.
An F-35B version crashed in 2018 in Beaufort County, South Carolina, because of a manufacturing defect in a fuel tube, according to a Government Accounting Office’s report.

The following year, a Japanese F-35A stealth fighter plunged into the ocean during an exercise over the Pacific Ocean, which Japan blamed on pilot disorientation, rather than technical issues.

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https://www.arcamax.com/currentnews/newsheadlines/s-2880622-p2

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 3hundred] #3176236
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Originally Posted by 3hundred
80 Million dollars and they couldn't spring for a LoJack?


Apparently they forgot to put the Apple Airtag in the glovebox.

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https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/usmc-finds-missing-f-35b-amid-aviation-safety-standdown

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If an aircraft is equipped with an ejection seat, the location of the crash site is normally proximate to where the ejected pilot lands. But there have been cases where an aircraft continued flying for hundreds of miles after the pilot ejected.

In 1989, for example, a Soviet Air Force Mikoyan MiG-23 crashed in Belgium, but that was 600 mi. from where the pilot ejected over Poland. The pilot ejected after the afterburner failed and the aircraft began descending, but after his ejection the engine kept running and the aircraft continued flying on autopilot.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...er-landed-one-piece-pilot-ejected-2023-9

A US fighter-interceptor nicknamed the 'Cornfield Bomber' once miraculously landed in one piece in a farm field after its pilot bailed out

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Originally Posted by 360view
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The aircraft was a vertical take-off version used by in the Marine Corps.

The jet is prized for its stealth qualities that make it difficult to detect by radar.

“We are aware of the mishap and are thankful the pilot ejected safely,” Lockheed said earlier Monday. “We are supporting the government’s investigation.”

The F-35 program, the most expensive U.S. weapons program ever, is projected to cost $412 billion in development and acquisition, plus an additional $1.2 trillion to operate and maintain the fleet over more than 60 years. A single jet can cost more than $160 million, depending on the variant. They are flown by the Air Force and Navy as well as the Marines.

It’s not the first time an F-35 has been in trouble.
An F-35B version crashed in 2018 in Beaufort County, South Carolina, because of a manufacturing defect in a fuel tube, according to a Government Accounting Office’s report.

The following year, a Japanese F-35A stealth fighter plunged into the ocean during an exercise over the Pacific Ocean, which Japan blamed on pilot disorientation, rather than technical issues.

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https://www.arcamax.com/currentnews/newsheadlines/s-2880622-p2



The cost was shared by several nations including Australia who are buying 80 plus F35s which is a huge commitment considering we only have 30 million people.

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