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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: Hoop]
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Not what you asked but FWIW I had that same air cleaner on a car of mine 30 years ago. Can't remember exactly but I think it picked up 4mph or so removing it at the track.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: Hoop]
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09/08/23 08:00 AM
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We used the stock type timing chain on our 318 hop up / rebuild. We used a cam chain tensioner and I hear double rollers will wear the plastic slipper quickly.
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9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: Stanton]
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09/08/23 08:51 AM
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Spend the few extra bucks on a good timing chain and gears. The cost isn't significant. Actually went and looked. The stock replacement Cloyes timing set (this is the one I mentioned wears out quickly) is one third the cost of the Edelbrock set and less than one quarter the price of the Rollmaster someone else mentioned. Cloyes $28.99 Edelbrock $92.95 Rollmaster $133.75 Not exactly insignificant, up front anyway. Since you'll be replacing it in 6 months due to slop it works out to be cheaper to step up to a good one from the get go.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: Hoop]
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09/08/23 09:24 AM
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Well, I all ready got a new HEAVY DUTY DOUBLE ROLLER TIMING SET off ebay because I was going to go with a stock cam, but then I was having a had time getting ahold of one, keep getting out of stock & refunded, so I order the edelbrock one from the auto parts, then I read this on jegs! "Do not use late model timing chain and gear sets that are designed for emission-controlled engines. They are machined in a retarded position and are not recommended for this camshaft installation. Use Performer-Link Timing Chain Gear Set 350-7803 or similar set."... This is the one I got off eBay, so I'm wondering should I use it or get the edelbrock one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/133134084872 You should degree every one. I trust none.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: NITROUSN]
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09/08/23 11:45 AM
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Did you folks look at the pic of his car? Read his posts, look at the cam link he posted? Its a stocker with oem manifolds and AC and hes putting in a near stock cam. Oem springs? Looks like the not so super high rpm street master intake?
That ebay set he bought is the same as the older oem double roller and is currently sold under one of maybe 10 brand names made by the same vend.
Here is one from the 80-s (sealed power) and is simply an oem replacement. More or less the same as today, maybe a bit better chain maybe not.
Is easy to spend others money and I think we all forget what we did before the internet.
Anyone here posting ever break a oem double roller in a stock motor?
So I should not use the one in my pics in a stock 340 build? Baaa.... craziness. Yea roll masters are good if your spinning 7500 with roller cam springs, they are a much better race made setup. Never had an issue with one but what requires a simple street car to have one in it? How dumb would one look if you went to a weekend show and while looking at a near stock 318 the owner pops off... its got a roll master chain/ billet gear set...... then folks would be silently asking themselves "WHY". Thats 350 chevy guy craziness.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: B1MAXX]
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09/08/23 01:12 PM
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Always cheaper to get a known good brand the first time. Unfortunately you might be buying a top shelf part to get the job done. My time is worth a lot, so 100 bucks extra for the better one is cheap.
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Re: Can you use a new stock time chain with Edelbrock Cam?
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
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09/08/23 03:44 PM
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Did you folks look at the pic of his car? Read his posts, look at the cam link he posted? Its a stocker with oem manifolds and AC and hes putting in a near stock cam. Oem springs? Looks like the not so super high rpm street master intake?
That ebay set he bought is the same as the older oem double roller and is currently sold under one of maybe 10 brand names made by the same vend.
Here is one from the 80-s (sealed power) and is simply an oem replacement. More or less the same as today, maybe a bit better chain maybe not.
Is easy to spend others money and I think we all forget what we did before the internet.
Anyone here posting ever break a oem double roller in a stock motor?
So I should not use the one in my pics in a stock 340 build? Baaa.... craziness. Yea roll masters are good if your spinning 7500 with roller cam springs, they are a much better race made setup. Never had an issue with one but what requires a simple street car to have one in it? How dumb would one look if you went to a weekend show and while looking at a near stock 318 the owner pops off... its got a roll master chain/ billet gear set...... then folks would be silently asking themselves "WHY". Thats 350 chevy guy craziness.
Yeah, the Cloyes crap I put in a stock 318, stock cam and springs. In 6 months the chain was sloppy enough to require replacement. Looks just like the one in the Ebay pictures to me, btw at Rockauto the Cloyes is half the price of the Ebay one, identical right down to the markings. But hey, replacing a timing set in the car is a rite of passage, right? What was it Forrest Gump's mama used to say?
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