Daytona 400 review
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So I switched to Daytona 400 on TV tonight to watch last 9? laps. Spoiler alert, there is a big wreck near the end, with I suspect with minor injuries, probably a leg or arm injury, the car rolls I'm guessing 20 times. Seems the new flat bottoms got the car airborne, but it landed on its first? roll going one direction, sideways on the grass, with the roof acting like a big scoop in the dirt/grass, and from then on, it was barrel rolling the opposite direction scary fast, it was quite a show. The race itself, it's IMO about as competitive as playing 52 card pickup. I'll watch another race in maybe 10 years.
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Re: Daytona 400 review
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoOuVPKNkYAHonestly , watching that live , I didn’t know what to expect with that young man after that wreck Was nice to hear he is out of the car and alert
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Re: Daytona 400 review
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08/29/23 01:10 PM
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The drivers and owners need to boycott the superspeedway races. They are a crapshoot with no real skill required anyway!
All it is, is a huge expense to the teams when half the field gets torn up. It will take someone losing their life before anything changes.
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Re: Daytona 400 review
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08/29/23 01:57 PM
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lI believe the Nascar downfall began when sponsors started actually measuring their own logo airtime televised during a race, as a yardstick to justify their sponsorship. That corporate measurement did not measure percentage of the TV picture the home viewer saw, but the time a readable corporate logo was broadcast during the race. Those cumulative airtime numbers were drastically increased with cars running in a pack, helped by restrictor plates, and repeated bunching caused by yellow flags that also fitted in the needed network TV commercials. It's all about the money. It will not get better After this wreck, I suspect logos will soon start being seen on the cars flat bottom undertrays. edit: " Comparatively Cheap Exposure In 2006, Eric Wright of Joyce Julius Associates, a research firm dedicated to sponsorship impact measurement, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the average screen time for a race car's primary sponsor during a typical race is 12.5 minutes and the average number of times the announcers mention the sponsor is 2.6 times per race. The comparable value to the sponsor for the time on screen, according to Wright, is $1.7 million. A sponsor's exposure goes up if its driver takes the checkered flag or is involved in a wreck, especially if the wreck occurs in the later stages of the race and the company name is still visible when the car comes to a stop. "If you crash, crash fabulously, and make sure your logo is not wrinkled up,'" Dave Hart of Richard Childress Racing once told a reporter."https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/24896/moving-billboards-brief-history-nascar-advertising%C2%A8#:~:text=In%202006%2C%20Eric%20Wright%20of%20Joyce%20Julius%20Associates%2C,mention%20the%20sponsor%20is%202.6%20times%20per%20race.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Daytona 400 review
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08/29/23 01:59 PM
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lI believe the Nascar downfall began when sponsors started actually measuring their own logo airtime televised during a race, as a yardstick to justify their sponsorship. That corporate measurement did not measure percentage of the TV picture the home viewer saw, but the time a readable corporate logo was broadcast during the race. Those cumulative airtime numbers were drastically increased with cars running in a pack, helped by restrictor plates, and repeated bunching caused by yellow flags that also fitted in the needed network TV commercials. It's all about the money. It will not get better. I agree with you jcc. I haven't watched a nascar race for many moons.
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08/29/23 02:00 PM
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Cup, and the superspeedway races, are a lot more interesting when you understand everything that's going on. Some competitive experience on an oval or a road course, or even crewing, helps that a lot. Inches away from each other at 180 or so while being buffeted, and planning moves to take well downtrack, is intense. It's almost as nuts as the same thing in open-wheel cars. Not to mention heat, pulse rate, the sheer volume of sensation and tactile info, and usually changing every second or so. Ovals are inherently dangerous because the cars can pack up, whereas on road courses, the corners tend to create separation.
I'm not a big fan of the NASCAR organization or the WWF-style stuff, and I dread wrecks; but racing itself, in almost any discipline...I'll refer to the famous Steve McQueen quote...
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08/29/23 02:05 PM
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I don't disagree. but the race's outcome is currently more based on luck and/or team orders, vs driver and/or car set-up.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Daytona 400 review
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The drivers and owners need to boycott the superspeedway races. They are a crapshoot with no real skill required anyway!
All it is, is a huge expense to the teams when half the field gets torn up. It will take someone losing their life before anything changes. Never happen as those are the races people actually tune into. They also have a lot more to do with who your friends are that will push you along and vice versa, its a big draft fest. Big wrecks are also pretty rare these days
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The drivers and owners need to boycott the superspeedway races. They are a crapshoot with no real skill required anyway!
All it is, is a huge expense to the teams when half the field gets torn up. It will take someone losing their life before anything changes. Big wrecks are also pretty rare these days The "Big One" happens in EVERY SINGLE Superspeedway race!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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