TIRES: how long are you using them for?
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07/29/23 05:05 PM
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Diplomat360
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...assuming you do not wear them out first!!! LOL
I'm not talking about the regular daily driver stuff here, rather the "weekend toy", you know: the thing that gets at most a couple of thousand of miles a year.
The following are the tires which were purchased back in 2008 and actually started to be used in about 2012:
1) REAR - Nitto - NT555R , 275/60R15 107V 2) FRONT - Yokohama - Avid S/T, 235/60R15 98T
The regular mfg. recommendation is: do not let the tires get over 10 yrs. in age. The rubber deteriorates, cracks show up, etc., etc....which is what I watch for in our family daily rides.
However, this is different.
With these things not exactly being cheap I do not want to spend the $$$ on unless it's necessary. But...given that I am way past the industry recommendation here as far as tire expectancy goes I have that nagging feeling like I should bite the bullet here: safety first!
Car is stored in the garage at all times, not temp controlled - although house attached so it never gets below 10C, but at least away from the sunlight and more extreme changes. Tires still "look like new", but I know there is more to it as far as compound chemistry and materials aging goes.
So is this the industry 'speak/marketing' getting to me, or is this the right time to caugh up the dough for new rubbers?
Thanks everyone!
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
[Re: Diplomat360]
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07/29/23 06:10 PM
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I run drag radials on the rear of the Cuda and I change them every 2 or 3 years just like the fan clutch. The drag radials get harder with time and lose some of their bite. The fan clutch loosens some with use and it helps to have it as tight as possible. My car needs all the 'bite' it can get and needs all the air it can get through the radiator when driving slow in the summer heat.
On the fronts, I have Michelin Defenders. With premium tires not out in the sun like on most daily drivers, I run them for many, many years. If the manufacturers are okay with 10 years for the typical situation, then they would last much, much longer on our classics due to the different environment they live in. But even at that, 20 years is probably plenty. Who knows for sure? But we do know that direct sunlight is really tough on plastics and rubbers.
Some of that is my experience and some is just my opinion.
Master, again and still
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
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07/29/23 07:55 PM
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The tires on the car my wife drives, age out befire worn out. Its a 2008 with 73,000 miles. On 5th set. Funny you posted this as we ordered a new set last night online. Sams Club ship to store with install package as they do not stock tgst size and when do have it sell out fast or don't have 4. Sale of 70 off and free install package ( free mount-balance, road hazard, rotation) so saved 88 bucks on that too. I posted asking how to read tire date codes so I know before mounted they are freash OR older. Was was under $700 for knowing she's safe. They also had if i wanted 205, 215, and 235-60r15 275-60r15 they could also send old car tires checked just to see what they had. My wife’s 2015 Subaru has on its second set, 185,000 miles and still look great. Changed out my 87 Ford box truck duely tires last year (50,125 miles), the old ones were new in 1997. Trailer tire are 5 years but 2 are already going flat, LT tires next time. My 2015 SRT might be needing a set soon (not sure what type to buy) 30,000 miles. The 06 one ton Dodge 4x4 is on its third set 134,000, originals lasted 96,000 miles (Michelin's). New tires are designed to deteriorate to not fill up land fills. Guess who buys ALL the junk yard tires now? Arabic and third world countries, big money for them.
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
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07/29/23 10:28 PM
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My Charger tires ( Goodyear) were right at 18 years old when I sold it. They looked good with no signs of aging. I could feel an uneveness at highway speeds that was not normal for the car. I told the buyer to put tires on it ASAP. My 38 went 21 or so years and I decided to change them just because of age. both cars probably had 5-10K miles on them. Just thinking about the two cars, the Charger saw daily driver duty for the first 1-1/2 years and was parked outside in Ca.. They 38 was a garage queen that the Charger joined after our move. May have had some impact on the Chargers tires
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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I would have been more impressed if he had bought 5 tires instead of 4, because that spare is just as old as the original tires that blew out on him. I just bought all new tires for the BMW, and a real spare for it. About $1500 all told. Michelin Pilot Sports. My son, who is definitely my son, told me he got it up to 128 passing someone this past week. Good thing I bought good tires, lol.
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
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Most will only try to outsmart the set in stone tire standards only one time and then they learn the hard way.... "Oh ive a u joint going bad" then reality hits as five seconds later they have a rear quarter panel folded up filling the rear wheel well or worse.
STOP POTATO HATE!
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
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07/30/23 10:12 PM
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After reading the leno article I was just thinking about how the quality has slipped on rubber in general, like ball joint / tie rod end seals and Suspension bushings. Doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. I've seen name brand rubber components / parts fail within 3 years of install. The originals lasted years. The newer cars to my knowledge don't have this issue. So is it the sources supplying these components at fault? trying to keep this politically correct Could tires also be following this same path ? The above is true of heater cores and many other parts as well. If a tire has never been mounted and stored in a climate controlled environment is it going to deteriorate at the same rate as a daily driver parked outside? Think of all the motorhomes (YIKES) there's some 💲💲💲💲💲.
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Re: TIRES: how long are you using them for?
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07/30/23 11:08 PM
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After reading the leno article I was just thinking about how the quality has slipped on rubber in general, like ball joint / tie rod end seals and Suspension bushings. Doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. I've seen name brand rubber components / parts fail within 3 years of install. The originals lasted years. The newer cars to my knowledge don't have this issue. So is it the sources supplying these components at fault? trying to keep this politically correct Could tires also be following this same path ? The above is true of heater cores and many other parts as well. If a tire has never been mounted and stored in a climate controlled environment is it going to deteriorate at the same rate as a daily driver parked outside? Think of all the motorhomes (YIKES) there's some 💲💲💲💲💲. Like most things these days, if a manufacturer can save a fraction of a cent on anything, they will. Fool with compositions, eliminate a supposedly not-needed element, etc. 1 less belt loop on pants, tag on pair of briefs, etc.
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