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The second allotment of long tube headers is now finished. The last set of headers went out and it's time to think about a possible third allotment.

It all depends on signing up at minimum 20 people or it won't happen. TTi places a strict number on their production or it's not worth their time and slows the entire build process.

I'm sure there are enough R/T's, Dakota Sports, Durango 2 wheel drives out there that at one time or another wanted a real set of custom long tubes that work. Especially those having to replace blown header gaskets and not getting the full power potential from shorties and mid lengths.

We can already start the list by adding 3 ready to go.

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Very nice. I wish Holley would make the Hemi Swap Headers (Long Tubes) again for the 1997-2004 Dakotas with a 3rd Generation Hemi Swapped in.

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I'm planning a built 5.2 Magnum for my 56 pickup, and I want a strong torquey engine for a daily driver. These long tube headers look to be the best choice for what I want. Any idea of the price for a set?


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Email john@southeastrt.com They are trying to start a third allotment and need people to sign up to keep them coming
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Re: Dakota/Durango Long Tube Headers [Re: Andyvh1959] #3165929
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Originally Posted by Andyvh1959
I'm planning a built 5.2 Magnum for my 56 pickup, and I want a strong torquey engine for a daily driver. These long tube headers look to be the best choice for what I want. Any idea of the price for a set?


Dakotas are pretty short in the firewall area. I'd be surprised if a set would work in a truck like yours.

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See if these help.

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Good point. But in the case of my Dakota, its the donor chassis going under my 56 Dodge cab. So far I plan to cut up the Dakota cab, but retain the firewall/floorpan. Then I plan to weld the 56 cab onto the Dakota firewall/floorpan. If I need to create clearance to the firewall I can do that when the 56 cab goes onto the Dakota floorpan. That's assuming something like long tube headers can still fit within the area provided to the 2001 Dakota firewall.

Thanks for those pictures. Are those the long tube headers in a Dakota chassis with the 5.2 Magnum? My goal is a stout, torquey 5.2 Magnum and long tube headers help keep the torque curve lower in the RPM curve.

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Originally Posted by Andyvh1959
Good point. But in the case of my Dakota, its the donor chassis going under my 56 Dodge cab. So far I plan to cut up the Dakota cab, but retain the firewall/floorpan. Then I plan to weld the 56 cab onto the Dakota firewall/floorpan. If I need to create clearance to the firewall I can do that when the 56 cab goes onto the Dakota floorpan. That's assuming something like long tube headers can still fit within the area provided to the 2001 Dakota firewall.

Thanks for those pictures. Are those the long tube headers in a Dakota chassis with the 5.2 Magnum? My goal is a stout, torquey 5.2 Magnum and long tube headers help keep the torque curve lower in the RPM curve.

These headers have a 1-3/4" primary and 4 into 1 collector. I just don't know how well a 5.2 will like all that volume.

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Saw some info, dakota's from 87 to 96 body type should fit these headers. Those body's are the same frame but they put the 97 to 2003 body on it.

The last 04 up body was a complete change.

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This is worth a review:

https://www.southeastrt.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1475_823

Their article touches on all the design and breathing characteristics of headers; short tube, long tube, primary size, collector style, merging, etc. They seem to know a great deal about making a header to suit the engine and driving.


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EPA shut their header program down. Now switching to better flowing exhaust manifolds to beat the fines. BUT, if you seriously want a set of their Dakota Gen 3 Hemi swap headers, call John 813-503-8069 he has 5 sets.

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I'm definitely calling John Monday. Up here in WI only three countries around Milwaukee and Madison require a smog test to pass for registration. Up here in Green Bay we can do as we please. Also, in WI my 56 will be titled/registered as a 56 even though it is on a 2001 Dakota chassis. WI goes by the tag number on the cab, not the number on the frame or from the donor chassis.


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Thanks John,

These are very nice headers the build quality versus the hooker super comps is like night and day.

Thanks Eric M.

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For those that wanted to get in on these long tube Dakota/Durango 2 wheel drive headers, you need to get on a new list being formed now. Ask around and try to make it happen.

They are trying to get enough people to make another allotment.

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New Info sent out for anyone wanting long tube headers,,, Looks like another header build is starting.


The numbers required by TTi to start an allotment have been achieved. We are collecting everyones address information now to get freight costs. If you have been debating whether to get a real set of custom made long tube headers, now is the time to get on the list. Call or email for further information, and thanks to all that have helped.

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It's a go for anyone wanting a set of these long tube headers.

They got over 20 people listed and taking payments.

Might be the last opportunity for these so grab a set if you can and help out a place that tries to help us..

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Got the numbers, list is formed, materials are being ordered for a production run.

Anyone thinking of getting a set of these "Real long tube headers" needs to make a move and get on the list real soon.

Contact us directly
John
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For all of you on this header buy list here is current info,

John, We are bending the header tubes now so the process has started.

Mike
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FYI, Long tube header info:

The current allotment of 26 long tube headers is now completed as another success. One set is finding it's way to Germany and a couple to Canada this round. The rest in the U.S.


But, I have some late comers trying to get a set now. Possibly 5 people so far.


If we come up with the TTi required build numbers, another allotment could begin.

Spread the word.

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It's beginning again. People have been calling trying to get a set of these long tube headers but the last allotment has been shipped out.

If you wanted a set of these headers, you better get on the current production list being formed.

These are winners for the 2 wheel drive 97-03 Dakota and Durango trucks.

Pictures, video and info are on www.facebook.com/southeastrt










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I was on the last batch and can't say enough good things about the product. He even organized and executed the group buy for us while going through some very difficult times. Class act.
I was nervous because I didnt know these guys but glad I went for it!
Brandon W.

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those are a great looking set of pipes !
a couple of things i do on any set of headers i install, i "stole" from our passed member, Mr. P-body [R.I.P.]
i cut the end pipes from the middle two at the mounting flange, and drill one mounting hole on each flange segment two drill sizes larger.
these simple mods dramatically increase the sealing ability of the flange, no matter how thick the flange is. this is especially true of the 1/4" and 5/16" flanges.
doing this can seal any flange of any header to any head.
i also use studs in the head, along with reduced head size flange nuts.
doing these simple things has worked superbly for me over many years and many header installs.
just my personal experience.
your mileage will vary.
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Originally Posted by moparx
those are a great looking set of pipes !
a couple of things i do on any set of headers i install, i "stole" from our passed member, Mr. P-body [R.I.P.]
i cut the end pipes from the middle two at the mounting flange, and drill one mounting hole on each flange segment two drill sizes larger.
these simple mods dramatically increase the sealing ability of the flange, no matter how thick the flange is. this is especially true of the 1/4" and 5/16" flanges.
doing this can seal any flange of any header to any head.
i also use studs in the head, along with reduced head size flange nuts.
doing these simple things has worked superbly for me over many years and many header installs.
just my personal experience.
your mileage will vary.
beer

Can you post a pic?

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those are a great looking set of pipes !
a couple of things i do on any set of headers i install, i "stole" from our passed member, Mr. P-body [R.I.P.]
i cut the end pipes from the middle two at the mounting flange, and drill one mounting hole on each flange segment two drill sizes larger.
these simple mods dramatically increase the sealing ability of the flange, no matter how thick the flange is. this is especially true of the 1/4" and 5/16" flanges.
doing this can seal any flange of any header to any head.
i also use studs in the head, along with reduced head size flange nuts.
doing these simple things has worked superbly for me over many years and many header installs.
just my personal experience.
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beer

Can you post a pic?


i have a set of headers stashed overhead in the garage rafters with this mod done. i'll see if i can get a picture or two of them without taking them down.
beer

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hopefully this picture will help explain what i like to do, cutting the flanges.
i always like to contour the flanges a little for appearance, but just slicing through the flanges with a wizz wheel or hacksaw would accomplish the same objective.
opening up one bolt hole a couple sizes allows for slight movement during warm up and cool down, helping the sealing of the flange.
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Looks good. Thanks!

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Looks like this next allotment is going to happen. They have 19 people on board at this time. If anyone wants to join now is the time.

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I just spoke to John @ Southeast. he told me that he turned over his rights to TTI and that they would be selling them at some point. Called TTI and they confirmed that, but it would be sometime before they would be available. Said the are swamped and need to get caught up before production would start.
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Yes, word is they will likely make some headers after the first of the year.

Not only is TTi backed up but there are some health related issues going on.

It's all bad so we pray all the best for them.

Everyone hang on and the headers will be back.

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