Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: moparx]
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07/16/23 01:22 PM
07/16/23 01:22 PM
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TJP
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My 3 biggest complaints with the EFI upgrades are: 1. Support down the road. I've had more than one customer run into this 2. the 40 or so feet of rubber hose they give you for supply and return lines. 3. I know some are non return line but I have heard of issues with the reliability And no i am not of fan of th braided crap either. Have had several cars through the shop in which the older line was failing due to ethanol. OK so what's the next thing to cause a failure? I like hard line plumbing with steel or better yet Stainless Steel. BTW; and Inline electric fuel pump will cure those long crank starts to fill the carb after sitting. the exception to the above is if it is a factory EFI
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: TJP]
#3159981
07/16/23 02:32 PM
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67vertman
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I did the change almost ten years ago now. My system, although not cheap, works great and zero problems. Support from FAST and F&B throttle bodies has been great along the Rich at Fast Man EFI> I run the FAST EFI 2.0 Controller and ECU harness. I have the full ability controller, but you cam also get the "learn while you drive system. I also run F&B throttle bodies 6 Pac system, https://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/6-pack/ - https://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/ but you can get single or double throttle bodies. Adding EFI to older cars can be a challenge, dual fuel lines (feed and return), electric fuel pump, I run mine outside of the fuel tank without issues, saved on buying a tank or modifying mine. Adding Air Temp, water temp, O2 sensor(s), currently I am running one, but wish I went with duels, fuel pressure regulator, modifying the distributor (thanks Rich at Fast Man) plus about a dozen other little things. I got a big complement from Westech Performance Group https://westechperformance.com/ with my setup. They said they have seen pro shops who didn't set it up as nice as mine. They tuned my ECU and Dyno'ed the car. Good luck with your update, it is worth the effort.
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: StrokerPost]
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07/16/23 02:54 PM
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Posts: 44,079 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 07/16/23 02:54 PM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: moparx]
#3160016
07/16/23 04:38 PM
07/16/23 04:38 PM
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RTSE4ME
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what kind of mods are done to your engine, besides the stroker kit ? [cam, heads, etc.] Just the normal mods that are done ported Edelbocks,10.5:1, hyd roller, 2" TTI's. Nothing fancy. I just reused the 3/8 steel line. I did upgrade my FBO ign module to get rid of ballast...didn't want to buy the Sniper Hyperspark distributor.
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: RTSE4ME]
#3160122
07/16/23 09:23 PM
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Posts: 4,575 Michigan
MarkZ
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Used an entire Holley Sniper kit on my 512. It's running the electric fans and timing control. Runs great and the self-learn gave it a decent street tune. Car has Eddie heads and a small hydraulic roller cam. Trick Flow single plane intake. Nothing fancy. As said the master kit comes with an external pump and a couple miles of rubber hose. Don't do this. - Hard line as far as you can take it. I used NiCopp 3/8" line for the feed and return.
- External pumps can work, but they're a PITA. You WILL need baffles or a Holley Hydromat in the tank to prevent starvation.
- If your car has an EFI ready tank available then this is the easiest route.
Last edited by MarkZ; 07/16/23 09:25 PM.
1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: moparx]
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07/27/23 01:28 AM
07/27/23 01:28 AM
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jbc426
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anyone do this with an 11.5:1 compression, .590 cam [.250ish @ .050 duration, in at 105 degrees] worked RPM heads, 2"/2 1/8" TTI headers into a 3 1/2" exhaust with x pipe, 446 cube 440 ? if so, how did it run compared to when it was carbed ? I'm swapping to EFI on a 493" RB with ported Indy EZ's, close on Duration with a bit more lift. It was 12 to 1, but I swapped the pistons to get it down into pump swill friendly 10.2 to 1. It had a very well sorted set of DC's mechanical secondary carbs and Hughes Engine's latest 6 pack intake porting efforts. Putting on a Edelbrock Single 4150 Intake that comes with the individual injector bungs in place. Wilson Manifolds did an amazing intermediate porting job on it, along with their 4150 throttle body. The ECU is Holley's universal Terminator kit with coil on plug ignition. Fuel system has been fully upgraded with return line style, regulator, -8AN methanol- proof braided line, custom stainless tank and Holley Hydromat. The main reason for trying this is even with a cold intake the motor was sensitive to heat soak and it didn't like to hot start to well. Once it got running again it would cool things down quickly.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(Stock drivetrain in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's & EFI. 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible Paxton Boosted 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 3.91's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: moparx]
#3163598
07/27/23 09:58 AM
07/27/23 09:58 AM
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AndyF
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anyone do this with an 11.5:1 compression, .590 cam [.250ish @ .050 duration, in at 105 degrees] worked RPM heads, 2"/2 1/8" TTI headers into a 3 1/2" exhaust with x pipe, 446 cube 440 ? if so, how did it run compared to when it was carbed ? Sure that is no problem for someone who knows how to tune EFI. Even the cheapest Holley Sniper will work with a big cam, you just have to manually adjust the tune rather than use the pre-built tune.
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Re: Swapping your 68 big block to EFI
[Re: AndyF]
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07/27/23 01:15 PM
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moparx
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Buying your homeless and unwanted bolt on battery terminals
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anyone do this with an 11.5:1 compression, .590 cam [.250ish @ .050 duration, in at 105 degrees] worked RPM heads, 2"/2 1/8" TTI headers into a 3 1/2" exhaust with x pipe, 446 cube 440 ? if so, how did it run compared to when it was carbed ? Sure that is no problem for someone who knows how to tune EFI. Even the cheapest Holley Sniper will work with a big cam, you just have to manually adjust the tune rather than use the pre-built tune. thanks Andy.
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