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Keith Black Racing Engines #3158369
07/09/23 09:57 PM
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I must be behind. Haven’t seen it mentioned.

Ad in PRI mag for KB Engines. New management. New location. Updated products. Hemi and wedge. Nice.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: CMcAllister] #3158410
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Tim moved his entire shop and operation to Florida some time ago.
I'm thinking their are three equal partners using that name now as well as maybe even Ken Black stiill in CA also, maybe not confused
I know there was bad blood on the original deal years back as well as a court settlement, but I don't have a clue about the settlement and who can use that Business name still confusedshruggy


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: Cab_Burge] #3158416
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I am assuming that Darren (I forget his last name) has sold up his stake in the business?


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That KB business has always been a mystery to me work

Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: LA360] #3158427
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Originally Posted by LA360
I am assuming that Darren (I forget his last name) has sold up his stake in the business?


Tedder, was his last name.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: JERICOGTX] #3158440
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by LA360
I am assuming that Darren (I forget his last name) has sold up his stake in the business?


Tedder, was his last name.

I may be wrong here, but I didn't think Darren Tedder was involved? I think the Darren (Beale?) that was/is part owner was from Australia?
There sure seems to be shadiness going on. Ads in magazines, posts on Facebook, but I don't think anyone other than Tim Banning can actually get his hands on a KB block.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: JERICOGTX] #3158441
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No it was not. It was Darren Beal. Darren Tedder is a nice guy in Georgia who built some wicked hemi motors. Darren Beal is an Australia business guy who tried to run KB and only ran it into the ground.
Ask me how I know?????
One day when I have time I will tell you guys that whole story, but not today. Still ongoing/
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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: sasquatch] #3158449
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Chris is a member here….. B1cuda (?) looks like he’d have the latest info…

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My mistake. It's been a while. I know the talk was big, but seemed all you could do was buy a T shirt on the website...


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Full page ad inside current PRI mag. Not going to screenshot it here since don't know if it would break any rules.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: JERICOGTX] #3158480
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
My mistake. It's been a while. I know the talk was big, but seemed all you could do was buy a T shirt on the website...


And even then, they couldn't get that right! Ordered black XL and got white small.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: sasquatch] #3158668
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
No it was not. It was Darren Beal. Darren Tedder is a nice guy in Georgia who built some wicked hemi motors. Darren Beal is an Australia business guy who tried to run KB and only ran it into the ground.
Ask me how I know?????
One day when I have time I will tell you guys that whole story, but not today. Still ongoing/
Todd


Thanks Todd. He was a former investment banker if I recall, based in Queensland. Years ago he was asking for advice on buying a engine machine shop and ended up buying in to KB. Prior to buying in to KB I recall him posting pictures of work he was getting done on his 68 Charger.

Victor Bray, the now Vice President, has been advertising KB blocks here in Australia for sale. No idea if they are actually in stock or not. They are $14K Aud over here, he's got a reasonable mark up on them. I could buy one out of the US and ship it myself for about $2-3K Aud less


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Originally Posted by sasquatch
No it was not. It was Darren Beal. Darren Tedder is a nice guy in Georgia who built some wicked hemi motors. Darren Beal is an Australia business guy who tried to run KB and only ran it into the ground.
Ask me how I know?????
One day when I have time I will tell you guys that whole story, but not today. Still ongoing/
Todd


Go get 'em, Todd.
I don't know who lied to me more, Darren or Ken.

Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: kwikblownhemi] #3158794
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I know there has been a lot of troubles with getting a block in the past. For the record, when I ordered my block from them in 2021 I had it in less than two weeks. Maybe I was just lucky? This was also from the first batch of new blocks that carried the Keith Black name along the pan rail area.

Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #3158826
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I got my dads KB block from Ray Barton back in December 2021. Ray got it the week I ordered it, just had to ship to him first before shipping to me. As far as I know Ray can still get them just as Tim Banning can.

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I have 3 KB Hemi alum blocks to be used someday for something. All are old 90's top fuel car blocks that have been passed doen over the years. I have paperwork from KB on 2 of them one was a Connie Kaliita block, one was a Mike Dunn block and the 3rd has a Mike Dunn signature on it for some unknown reason.


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Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
I have 3 KB Hemi alum blocks to be used someday for something. All are old 90's top fuel car blocks that have been passed doen over the years. I have paperwork from KB on 2 of them one was a Connie Kaliita block, one was a Mike Dunn block and the 3rd has a Mike Dunn signature on it for some unknown reason.



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Re: Keith Black Racing Engines [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #3216081
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Originally Posted by B1CUDA
We are doing just that.


Thanks for the info. Just to put the puzzle pieces in order here so I can understand better, when you say "we", are you part of the KB/FHO organization?
Thanks and best of Luck to TIm Banning.


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