It's a real sickness! I just sold two Chargers. I was 26 deep!

Definition of over priced. means different things to different people

Regardless of opinions, this is an overpriced dumpster fire. I've included four pics of the highlights of this mess:

1970 Dodge Charger · Sedan · Driven 25,000 miles
1970 dodge charger $45,000 obo
The bad
- as you can see the pictures the paint needs to be redone, it's cracked in a lot of places
- needs a trunk pan
- needs a new wiring harness underneath the dash
- transmission park link needs adjustment
- not a real RT
- not original engine and no built sheet
The Good
- a strong 440
- automic 727
- runs and drives
- positive 8 3/4
- 3in flow masters
- 18in wheels
- all glass is there
- chrome trim is good condition
- strong bones
Notes : Clean title in hand
- the car does have a fender tag.
- the interior is driver quality
- this car has electrical issues under the dash wiring and sometimes shorts eventually smoking the main fuse box will need replacement underneath the dash.Solid frame and body except trunk pan. It needs a trunk pan. Originally was a 4 speed car now it's an automatic, with a pistol grip! Clutch pedal is still there if you want to take it back to a 4 speed! 45k OBO!

I love 68-70 Chargers but garbage like this is pathetically funny.

I have a nice 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 383 4 speed car unrestored, not in original condition, that was sold new in SO CA and is rust free for sale, excellent condition and can be driven anywhere PM on here for more information if you want more info on it

This looks decent for $3500, but it still needs an engine or rebuild and reassembly of the car.

Edit: It says engine was not running, so maybe it doesn't even require a rebuild or replacement engine.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...ld-duster-3-500-project.html#Post3156168

The reality of the current second generation Charger market is that a mostly complete car that runs and drives that doesn't need a ton of panel replacement will bring 40k plus.

I'm not disagreeing with you, trust me.

I'll stick with my underappreciated 72 Road Runners and watch the 68-70 Charger market from afar.

Take care,

Mike.

I am glad I bought the Chargers I have years ago when they were still somewhat affordable,as I am currently priced out of my own hobby!

We appreciate what some of you have out there.Thanks!

There are HUGE amounts of disposable income out there. That's what will drive the collector car market. A guy in my club just sold a '70 Judge for $375,000. With the vig it was over $400,000. The trickle down affect will prop up the cars at the lower end of the market like the ratty Charger above.

There is a local guy who sold a decent 69 Charger 383, 4spd with air this spring.
Listed it for 69k, and it sold in under a week. Dealer in east coast bought it , Put some chrome magnums on it and listed it for upper $90s

Last I heard it sold.

I listed my 66 Satellite 383 / auto this weekend at $28,5....and have a couple people interested.

I like any of the 60's c bodys. Should be able to find a nice 66-67 b body 318 powered in the 10k-15k range. I really like the forwardlook era and a nice crew cab (4door) car is usually pretty cheap.

Wish I had time, this one popped up for sale after being garaged away for many, many years for 2k.

I feel this AMC Hornet is a really good deal in todays muscle car market. You can’t even paint a car for the asking price of 10k.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/739743623943536/?mibextid=6ojiHh

I've had my affair with FMJs. Unless you buy in nice, you'll be throwing money at a car with no support.

I'm currently in a Late-B car. Solid support for mechanical parts, but again, buy in nice or you'll find that parts (panels, interior, etc.) don't exist.

If I was starting from scratch again, I'd go either 1971-74 B-body or a Duster/Demon. Plenty of aftermarket support. Plenty of parts. Plenty of options.

I'm driving this.

And this.

This has been an excellent discussion so far. One issue that has not been mentioned is the price of all vehicles seems to be rising. Late model vehicles and older vehicles. There are a number of factors pushing prices up. many of these factors have been discussed on the board in the past. I came across something else that may increase the cost of older vehicles specifically.

Recently, I was talking with a family member. This guy has never really been a major "car guy." He has some mechanical skills, but he rarely utilizes those talents. In our last conversation, he said he is considering buying an older vehicle. This was quite surprising! He and his wife have been driving late model Honda vehicles. Unfortunately, he has had a number of issues with both of them. The problems have ALL been related to some of the newer fuel saving technologies. His Honda dealer has been having trouble repairing the problems. He is becoming disillusioned with new vehicles, due to all of the problems he has experienced. He is convinced these fuel saving technologies have done little or nothing to improve the actual fuel economy.

In addition to the hassles of having broken down vehicles, he was also complaining about the cost of having his vehicles fixed. Apparently, he has spent many thousands of dollars in the last year on repairs. So, he is now thinking about an older car. I don't know if he will actually follow through and buy one or not. One of his favorite cars was a 1972 Chevelle. He owned one when he was a young man. He has fond memories of the car and thinks he can repair it himself. Once he prices Chevelles, he may run back to the Honda dealer! I have no idea how common it is to find folks like him, so it difficult to say how this will affect the overall market.

Bottom line: The prices on older cars will likely go up instead of down for the foreseeable future. There doesn't seem to be much that will push the prices down anytime soon. So, spending a little more now, may turn out to be a wise move.



Now, back to the original question of affordable antique cars. I have noticed that some of the early 50's cars are very reasonably priced. These would probably not qualify as "Muscle cars" in stock form. On the other hand, these can be modified and turned into performance machines.

2wd short bed pickups make fun street toys with the right engine and stance. Not as cheap as they once were as they are getting harder to find, but I think you can go farther with your money vs a popular muscle car. People here are even cutting down long beds and making them into short beds so if you have a nice swb pickup they practically sell themselves.

Perhaps you don't find your dream ride right away, but you can always buy something else that is popular and an easy sell so you can get your money back out of it quickly should the one you really want show up. I know a guy who buys and trades mid-level desirable project cars and trucks on the side. Some are bought with dead engines, missing engines and transmissions etc. He puts more elbow grease than money into them to get them running with parts out of his stash, and then sells them a year or so later. Most of the time he puts a small amount of money in his pocket on each car. That money is used to buy the next one and so on so once you do a couple cars the cost to keep doing this is minimal so long as you keep buying the right type of vehicle.

I think the high prices on collectables are partially due to our money being devalued so much. People are buying and selling trying to convert their money into 'other stuff''.