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1st race weekend #3142778
05/06/23 08:11 AM
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Though Dizuters 62 didn't fare well. Tested yesterday as well. The 64 made some good laps. The 4.10 gear seems to like a littleore rpm on the shift. The 9.03 pas at 6900 confirmed that. Had a tree issue on the 9.01 pass. Sat at the line for maybe 90 seconds. So the motor was warmer than normal. It cools down very quick between runs. ET came right back the next pass. Started with the same shock settings as Milan 2 weeks ago. Quickly found the difference in track prep. Pass # 2 60ft clicked with the rear wheels. We ended up tightening the front rebound 15 clicks. Today is raceday.
Doug

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3142780
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Fine 1st outing.That car prints time slips!


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Nice! Good luck today Doug!


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Awesome. Like Jeff said, good luck today!!


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Good luck and I'm glad you're out enjoying some seat time again. You've been busting-a in the shop no doubt, now it's time to win.

Re: 1st race weekend [Re: HardcoreB] #3142886
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Good luck and I hope you did well!!!


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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: Kiddart] #3142960
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Good luck DVW

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: tex013] #3142974
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Good luck Doug!!


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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143069
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Thats getting after it ! Congrats!!
We got our first 1.29 60ft this weekend on a 6.00 pas in bad air and still a little too rich, then rained out.
Question, is that your own program/spread sheet or an available program??
I think i like that- a lot!

Re: 1st race weekend [Re: RustyM] #3143089
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Originally Posted by RustyM
Thats getting after it ! Congrats!!
We got our first 1.29 60ft this weekend on a 6.00 pas in bad air and still a little too rich, then rained out.
Question, is that your own program/spread sheet or an available program??
I think i like that- a lot!

It is Crew Chief Pro. http://crewchiefpro.com/
We got 2 qualifiers Saturday 8.986, 8.984 then we went into beer delay. That evening race was cannceled. Next morning threat of rain canceled Sunday as well.
Doug

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143167
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I thought it might be Crew Chief but, wasn't sure, i went and looked after posting and was then pretty sure.
So, are you happy with it, recommend it?
My hand scribbling in log book just gets less legible with age/patience i guess and, i really like the way this lets you read comparisons so, if your happy with it, i think thats what im going to do this week. We have a two week off here so, wheels going out for bead locks and i have time to learn the software.
If you have regrets, i will look more closely at the other platforms.
Crw Chief 'appears" to be pretty straight forward , intuitive .
Would appreciate any review/opinion you might have.
Our best pass on the new bullet so far has been a 5.96 1/8 with the 60 off a goodbit, sidewalls gave up on the slicks and even 14lbs didn't effect them paddling over themselves, just put on a set of m/t pro radials and got a 1.28/29 60 on second and third ht/while being on bad air, 28.50 air pressure and too rich- then rained out.
We are still behind you- dang it!!! hahahah.
I think with some new rear shocks, a decent t&t day to finish chasing new build gremlins and getting the car dialed- we can see some pretty good times/60"s . New 540 is just,,,, different, the 60/330 split radically different, all shock settings went out the window and, while getting close, sidewalls just gave up so, now learning the radials ( just glued em, almost no movement of tire on rim- amazing, but, will bead lock em)
We are off on mph even though times look good for power/weight/air so, guess a converter adjustment is coming off, bout 4-5 mph off where my calculations show we should be- everything else- the math works,and i can see wheel-speed vs rpm not climbing as expect in 3rd but, i could be wrong as well, tightening up might hurt car between splits. Fun learning eh??
Dang it though, you would still kick our tails!!!
I think low 5.90"s will be our best regular index/dial with 1.25-28 60's averages, your beating our teeth out on the 60-330 split- whew , that girl is dialed up front side- whew!!

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: RustyM] #3143171
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I have never used it, but Crew Chief Pro is pretty much the gold standard for NHRA Sportsman racers.

I have a friend who just upgraded to the latest version. First run after the upgrade the car ran dead on the dial with a zero.

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
I have never used it, but Crew Chief Pro is pretty much the gold standard for NHRA Sportsman racers.

I have a friend who just upgraded to the latest version. First run after the upgrade the car ran dead on the dial with a zero.



hmmmm , seems to me this might be a form of "data logging" , isnt that illegal in NSS ???? shruggy


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The car is outstanding, runs very well and consistently ! !

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: n20mstr] #3143276
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The only data Crew Chief uses is what time slip and weather info you give it. It does not data log anything from the car. I like it. It's easy to use. Don Higgins is the guy behind it. Their tech support is terrific. As far as beat up sidewalls. My 10.5wx31 M/T bias have 130 passes on them. 60fts on a preped track are within less than .01 if I don't experiment. If there was a 10.5x31 radial I'd run it. They won't allow us 315 radials
Doug

Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143327
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As always, that car is awesome Doug!


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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143347
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It's amazing how shock settings can change from track to track


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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143372
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Doug: Not sure why the sidewalls gave up at just over 100 passes , we rotate properly and i never let get into hard paddling more than once no matter where we go. Knowing the car so well, I pretty well know where to put tire for first pass after looking at track . Thats why i was so shocked when the tire started going away so quickly once we put the new bullet in. We normally run a 29. x 10.5Ws at 12.5 to 12.75 lbs on a 3200 lbs car. Perhaps it was just time rather than passes on the tire??
At any rate, we are loving the radials.
Thanks for info on Crew Chief.

Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143373
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To all: I do take data on this Nss car as, nss is not all we run and, nothing wrong in taking data at "test in tune "- to our understanding, we just cannot use data capture for tuning car at events, either during qualifying or eliminations.
Perhaps other sanctioning bodies are different.
Kinda makes one wish Nss was a national program sometimes as i see different NSS groups have differing rule sets.

Doug, your car is amazing .

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Re: 1st race weekend [Re: RustyM] #3143389
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Running tubes was the best thing I've done for tire life.
Doug

Re: 1st race weekend [Re: dvw] #3143391
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[quote=dvw]Running tubes was the best thing I've done for tire life.
Doug
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Couldn’t agree more with that statement. Happy to hear the car is workin well. It’s deadly.

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