Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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My 92 Stealth has a small leak on the Steering rack that I narrowed down to the transfer tube. It has rusted under that plastic cover, a typical Northern Car rust issue. Unfortunately the transfer tubes are no longer available and rebuilt racks are an expensive crap shoot. Getting the entire tube or rack out is a bit of a pain but I will if I have to. I am have no desire to replace a good rack when a tube repair makes more sense. Making a new tube has it's own issues since the fittings are probably JIS not NPT or SAE. It leaks while just sitting and doesn't seem to leak more or less when driving. Are these just return lines or are they pressurized? Can I just cut out the rusted section and patch it with rubber? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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Likely O rings on the fittings. If you're creative and handy with a tubing bender and flaring tool, you can probably make your own lines. Reuse the fittings and don't worry about threads.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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I've used 1/4" line as a substitute for 6mm plenty of times. Just drill the fitting out a bit, sometimes you don't even need to.
If it's a double flare you're done. If o ring, loosen the line clamp and use the flare tool to push a short length of 3/16 line into the flared end . That will hold the o ring.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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if using hose, high pressure stuff is a must, plus a "bubble" type of flare is required to keep the hose from popping off. use fuel injection hose clamps instead of the worm gear style, and don't cramp the rack to full lock, where the pressure spikes. i went through this with a minivan once, and it was a giant pain until i got a new line from rock auto.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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if using hose, high pressure stuff is a must, plus a "bubble" type of flare is required to keep the hose from popping off. use fuel injection hose clamps instead of the worm gear style, and don't cramp the rack to full lock, where the pressure spikes. i went through this with a minivan once, and it was a giant pain until i got a new line from rock auto. Not going to work on a steering system that could have over 1,000 psi.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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if using hose, high pressure stuff is a must, plus a "bubble" type of flare is required to keep the hose from popping off. use fuel injection hose clamps instead of the worm gear style, and don't cramp the rack to full lock, where the pressure spikes. i went through this with a minivan once, and it was a giant pain until i got a new line from rock auto. Not going to work on a steering system that could have over 1,000 psi. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!! i sure found THAT out rather quickly ! i tried shoving a chunk of the factory "flex" part of that line over the "bubble" i made on the part of the line that wasn't rusted [because of the clamp trapping dirt and water around the line] then using three fuel injection clamps, and that lasted a couple of trips before popping off ! glad "the rock" had the line i needed in stock, and shipped it fast ! by then, i was pretty good at laying under the "bus", and shoving the hose back on and re-tightening the clamps by "feel".
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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Ahhh. Not the words I wanted to hear but definitely the words I needed to hear. Thank you There are a couple Stealths in a junkyard a couple hours from here. Looks like time to travel.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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You can make lines faster.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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You can make lines faster. Shhhhh Don't use logic... I'm looking for an excuse to skip town. LOL I will try to make lines first and with the 6mm to 1/4" trick you listed earlier I think I am set. Kudos for that. If it was just the lines I wouldn't make the trip but I have a few other parts on that car in need of attention so I may just take the day off and go on a mini vacation if the line repair goes south.
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Re: Rack & Pinon Transfer tubes Pressure???
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Well that makes sense.
The trick about using the smaller line to hold the o ring is easier done than described.
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