An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/27/23 07:59 PM
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If this is considered too political please delete or move it. I found it informative enough to share Written by Bryan O'connor: Exactly one year after purchasing the electric Mustang Mach-E, I'd like to share my thoughts, pros and cons of driving an all electric car. Pros: 1. Driving is like nothing I've experienced! The acceleration and power is so smooth and luxurious. What a ride! 2. Don't have to buy gas. 3. Low maintenance!!! No oil changes! Fewer moving parts equals less parts breaking down. 4. City driving is amazing! The car battery excels in slow, stop and go conditions. Cons: 1. Winter driving is very stressful. The battery drains very quickly in the cold. Heating your cabin in extremely cold temperatures is sometimes impossible! At minus 35 degrees Celsius, your windshield will freeze over as NO HEAT will be provided! That's right...only cold air in very cold climate! 3. Charging your car takes much longer in the winter. Traveling to Ottawa once, it took 90 minutes to charge my car from 20% to 80% at a level 3 Charging spot. 4. The anger and frustration when you pull up to a fast charger off the highway and it is "out of order" is out of this world! It happens too often! 5. Everywhere you travel to, extensive careful planning is needed because fast chargers (level 3) are not easy to find in working order. 6. Highway driving drains your battery very fast at speeds greater than 100kms per hour. In Summary: 1. My Mustang Mach-E is not a practical car for my job. I put 30,000kms in one year. If we have a colder Winter next year I'll be miserable! 2. The infrastructure is a joke for non- tesla cars. I cannot imagine doubling the electric cars on the road with the current available fast chargers. The wait lines and times to charge will increase arrival times on long trips by many hours! 3. Electric cars are not very efficient on the highway if you like to drive fast. In my opinion, a plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) car would be ideal. PHEV cars can drive electric in the city, saving you on gas. Then choose gas to drive efficiently on the highway. Win-win! I sold my Mustang Mach-E and I am on a waiting list to buy a PHEV. It was a fun ride while it lasted but very impractical for my line of work. Our cold Quebec winters and the very poor infrastructure adds to my obvious decision. Our governments want to put a holt on the production of internal combustion engines by 2035. Good luck with that! The current infrastructure is a joke. I do not have any faith it can be improved to meet the future demand.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/27/23 08:31 PM
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minus 35F and annual milage in km... methinks this is a Canadian experience.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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minus 35F and annual milage in km... methinks this is a Canadian experience.
- Art Yes, within a stones thrown from Detroit where the car was designed. They can't tell us they ran into the same issues during testing in the winter, or anytime.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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Can the average US home support (charging) more than one EV daily? My friend in CA sent me his alert from last summer informing residents to either (1) charge your EV or (2) use your AC, but don't do both at the same time. Probably charging 2 EV's at the same time would also be a bad idea. And I agree with the article. Here in Vegas the heat of the summer is not ideal for EV's. And running the AC drains the battery fast, like driving at highway speed. And I got a quote last week from Nissan to replace the measly 24KW battery in my Nissan Leaf for a bit over $16,000. And it takes 2 to 3 months to get a battery.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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Can the average US home support (charging) more than one EV daily? Most homes can not.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/28/23 10:29 AM
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i have no issue with driving a ev around town but not for a long trip Until solid state batteries with 1000 mile ranges and 10 min re-charge times becomes a thing the guy that made the list is right, PHEV is the way to go. Electric in the city (most have 40-50 mile range) but gas for the highway. Any place trying to ban gas engines by 2035 is very stupid and that rule will be scrapped (unless solid states are in full production by then).
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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My ford dealer we get parts from has a transconnect EV for parts deliveries. Guy who drives it has dropped parts here at the shop a few times. Every time he comes in he stays to warm up this winter. Said he can not take the interstate and barely stays warm delivering parts. in town driving I am sure its ok but sending him outside of town when the air temps are zero or below is crazy. I am sure it is Ford telling the dealer they need to use it to show off but what is it showing when he is telling stories of being worried if he will make it back and having to drive 40 in a 65 just to conserve battery.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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DInosaurs for the win The EV mandate comes from folks who don't live in the real world: Government-employed academics and ivory-tower idealists, who lack common sense, but are likely to be invested in the industries they force on the People. EVs are fine for short trips in moderate-climate cities that have the infrastructure to support them, and that's pretty much it.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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Can the average US home support (charging) more than one EV daily? Most homes can not. Well (currently) with nearly 60% of the average US households having two (2) vehicles per household and another 20% having three (3) vehicles per household, I'm not that good at math but how in the future is this going to work out????
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/29/23 12:16 AM
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I tell people all the time to watch for the electrical limitations at the household level. The grid is talked about all the time, but the party doesn’t stop getting it into your neighborhood.
I’m thinking about setting up a charging station at my house with a 440 to run the thing.
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/29/23 06:43 AM
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My grandfather who was born in 1900 and began work at age 13 installing red hot rivets in the steam boilers of an electric power plant to power a coal mine, said that it was a huge mistake not installing 3 phase electric power to houses.
My father took this a step further and said it was a huge mistake not to have adopted 400 Hertz AC instead of 60 Hz ( or 50 Hz). He began work at 13 as a telephone repairman inside coal mines.
In airplanes where weight and power is crucial 3 phase 400 Hz is often used.
Tesla wants to sell you a “PowerWall” to store power from your intermittent solar cells and windmills to fast charge your 2 EV autos, EV motorcycle, EV ATV, EV farm tractor and battery boosted bicycle.
It is probably a mistake to not also consider mechanical flywheels or compressed air tanks.
My mechanical engineering senior class’s assigned “capstone” project was to split into 5 person teams and design flywheel powered vehicles to transfer suitcases from passenger terminals to and from airliners.
My niece’s bio-engineering senior class’s assigned capstone project was to design compressed air powered urban automobiles.
In mining the sequence of technology was - harder stones to break softer stones - fire followed by water quenching to crack hard stones, metal picks to crack rocks - wooden railroad tracks so that women and children could haul heavy ore wagons - black powder blasting of hand drilled holes - steam powered water pumps to prevent deeper mines from flooding - explosion protected lanterns - steam engines to drive pumps, drills, fans and hoists, - steam engines to drive air compressors - compressed air hole drills- detonating high explosives - local steam engines to power local electric generators - electric generators to charge batteries for lights and telephones - electric motor hole drills and pick wheels - diesel engines to power mine railroad locomotives - grid electricity to power electric motors - computers to start and stop complex sequences of motors - robots to drive diesel or electric ore trucks - robots to core drill and sample rocks on Mars - robots to mine asteroids, moons and planets......
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Re: An honest eval from an EV owner 1 year in
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04/29/23 09:39 AM
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360view wrote: " My mechanical engineering senior class’s assigned “capstone” project was to split into 5 person teams and design flywheel powered vehicles to transfer suitcases from passenger terminals to and from airliners."
I had a similar Mechanical Engineering senior project when I went to college. Does the name 'Oerlikon Gyrobus' ring a bell? Those were flywheel-powered city buses that came out in Switzerland around 1951. They were used many years in Europe and later in South America. I never understood why the technology never caught on.
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