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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: Sniper] #3139722
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


Newer versions of Windows sux. They changed the UI and it was not an improvement.

My work computer is W10, I hate it.

My personal laptop is W7, garage laptop is XP.


It takes getting used to, but actually W10 is really good once you get used to it. It actually takes less energy to learn it than it does to resist it.


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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139750
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


Newer versions of Windows sux. They changed the UI and it was not an improvement.

My work computer is W10, I hate it.

My personal laptop is W7, garage laptop is XP.


It takes getting used to, but actually W10 is really good once you get used to it. It actually takes less energy to learn it than it does to resist it.


I have to agree with Sniper. I have the same setups! My employer changed to Win10 a few years ago and I detest it too, but had no choice.

I use Win7 on my laptop but only to remote-work, otherwise it's Linux all the way. The old ("garage") laptop is XP because I needed the 9-pin serial port for my OBD-II cable and it won't run anything more "advanced" wink

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139767
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


Newer versions of Windows sux. They changed the UI and it was not an improvement.

My work computer is W10, I hate it.

My personal laptop is W7, garage laptop is XP.


It takes getting used to, but actually W10 is really good once you get used to it. It actually takes less energy to learn it than it does to resist it.


I do not need an OS that makes me relearn how to use it. Been using Windows since the 90's and I am accustomed to that UI. I do not want the crap they have as a UI now. I do not want it to try to guess where I want to save a file it never picks the right spot and it is one more PITA step to deal with doing my job.

It's like all the office updates that appear to just move around where the functions are located, just to piss you off.

Let's rename functions because we can and it'll piss off the customers. Then some IT jerk starts talking gibberish to "explain" to you how to sort out whatever the latest CF Microsoft has foisted off on us.

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: Sniper] #3139786
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I’m all ears on these post, mine is a Sony so I have to put up with their junk plus win 8. I’d like to erase the whole hard drive and install something like what mw on my I phone, but to me that’s like building a space ship, ‘Lost in Space’

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139854
04/21/23 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Twostick

The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin

Only the electrical grid? Do you surf the internet on those laptops?
W7 is ok, but no longer gets security updates. W10 is great, just keep it updated.


So what if it's a "stand-alone" PC? Not connected via a router nor wifi, but internet cable directly to pc?


Stand alone means no connection to the internet at all. If you are connected via a cable to the internet, it’s not really stand alone. If you have nothing of value on the computer, I guess it’s ok, but I wouldn’t do it.


Why not? What's the problem then?

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139871
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


Newer versions of Windows sux. They changed the UI and it was not an improvement.

My work computer is W10, I hate it.

My personal laptop is W7, garage laptop is XP.


It takes getting used to, but actually W10 is really good once you get used to it. It actually takes less energy to learn it than it does to resist it.


I really don't like the live tiles MS introduced in the Win8 start menu, probably irrationally since I DESPISE Win8 and refused to use it, or even look at Win8.1 after trying the Win8 developer preview version.

I install one of the retro start menus, start10, start11, Open Shell (did nothing on the last Win11 machine I tried it on) or my current favorite, startallback. Costs about $5.00 for one PC.

I updated the wife's Win7 machine to Win10 a few years ago, used Open Shell so it'd look like Win7. I was careful to replace the Open Shell start button with the Win7 orb. She never noticed a difference in how it works, nor did she notice she no longer had Win7. I currently have a new Win11 machine prepared for her (the old computer is not eligible for a Win11 upgrade) with a similar treatment, I doubt she'll notice this one either except for it being a physically different machine.

My little sister ran into a vulnerability with Win10 version 1909, a rogue piece of software and a registry entry were nagging her near constantly to download the full payload, fortunately she didn't fall for that. I spent several hours looking into it for her, finally Malwarebytes discovered it and quarantined it, then I deleted the damned things. Keep your computer updated, IMHO, had she been running a current Win10 version, she'd never have been compromised.

JMHO, don't even try to run an old version of Windows, when your Windows version support ends, back up your files to an external drive, format the hard drive, install Linux, put your personal files back and enjoy the improved security. Again, IMHO, Linuxmint and Zorin OS are best for Windows refugees with the shallowest learning curve.


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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139874
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
[quote=Twostick]
The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin


Only the electrical grid? Do you surf the internet on those laptops?

W7 is ok, but no longer gets security updates. W10 is great, just keep it updated.



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There are plenty of back doors that hackers can use on an old computer to gain access to everything on your network.


Hackers can't gain access to anything on MY network because I don't have one. I have 3 computers, no network.

If I did have them networked then yes a hacker could possibly gain access to all my top secret data on Computer 3 through Computer 1 if it was running XP.

Kevin

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: 360view] #3139890
04/22/23 05:40 AM
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Linux is just an adaption of the very old UNIX operating system early mainframe computers used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux

There are now many “flavors” of Linux, like flavors of ice cream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

Ubuntu has a charitable Foundation’s money backing its ongoing existence and update issuing

Debian is one of the oldest with some French government money

Knoppix is based on Debian,
and was one of the earliest live CD/DVD
and has many pre-loaded useful programs

Tiny Core Linux can run on very old, limited RAM, computers, and there are 8 others nearly as “lightweight”

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-distro-space/

Apple OS “guts” is based on BSD, a cousin of Linux

Android “guts” is also based on Linux

Most network/WiFi routers run Linux.
Many routers now have built in Malware scanning/blocking, plus ad blocking.
Recently some routers have now added VPN (Virtual Private Network) that protects internet traffic passing through to connected computers.

Put a highly effective,
frequently updated,
Malware blocking
VPN capable
router in front of your network

Despite all this,
there are computer programers working in Israel
that can break into your newest and freshly updated computers and cell phones
at least every other month or so.


Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: 360view] #3141105
04/27/23 08:56 PM
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I used my XP desktop until October 2021, when it started spontaneously rebooting without warning.
By 2021, the only browser I could run other than IE was Chrome. My licensed MalwareBytes kept it safe right up to the end.


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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: 68SportFury] #3141136
04/28/23 06:15 AM
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The really evil malware creators use their skills to bring in money,
and now there are so few remaining XP computers in use
to generate much criminal cash flow.

Crime has to pay.

Microsoft should release to the public all the XP software security fixes they were paid with US Tax payer money to keep writing
after “free” security updates for the general public ended
in order for the US Navy Submarine XP systems to keep running.

I would not bet against the assertion
that the best knowledge base of unpatched XP flaws
is in Israel.


I HAVE HIJACKED THIS POST FOR MY OWN GAIN !!!! [Re: 360view] #3141219
04/28/23 01:03 PM
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I am not typically a post hijacker, but it seems there are some minds in here more brilliant than my own.

Is it possible to load, and play old DOSS prompt loading games on a modern machine? I have some old games from the early 2000s that use that format, and it would be kinda neat to get them to work again.


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Re: I HAVE HIJACKED THIS POST FOR MY OWN GAIN !!!! [Re: hp383] #3141272
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Originally Posted by hp383
I am not typically a post hijacker, but it seems there are some minds in here more brilliant than my own.

Is it possible to load, and play old DOSS prompt loading games on a modern machine? I have some old games from the early 2000s that use that format, and it would be kinda neat to get them to work again.


Yes, it's call DOS box, it emulates the old operating system kn a newer machine

Re: I HAVE HIJACKED THIS POST FOR MY OWN GAIN !!!! [Re: Sniper] #3141284
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Damn, I think it's time I dusted off my copy of Wing Commander 3 and the Tex Murphy series. Used to use Dosbox to get old ass CNC controller software running.


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Re: I HAVE HIJACKED THIS POST FOR MY OWN GAIN !!!! [Re: hp383] #3141504
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Not so bad hijack.

The first computer program that I witnessed save “real money”
was an “optimum blend” DOS program that could predict how to blend
up to 20 different ores,
each ore having 5 unique characteristics
into the “lowest price” acceptable blend of ore to sell.

This $100 program saved $1,000,000 in less than 2 years.

I should use DOSBOX emulator to be able to run it.

I have never, ever, been accused of hijacking a moparts post.....
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