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Engine Paint. #31300
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Does anyone have a Base/clear paint code # for the correct shade of Hemi Orange paint? I have a few engines that are ready for paint and figure that I can paint urethane base/clear with a flattener and achieve good results. I have done one already in "mandarin orange", and while it looks very nice, it's just a little off.

Anyone??

Mike

Re: Engine Paint. [Re: HPMike] #31301
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perfect timing , i need to paint my engine and an air cleaner for a friend , though i'll just do a single stage ??? no clear coat here .

mike theres a thread started by djvcuda bashing bill hirsh paint that i think had some info on other paint and codes ?

Re: Engine Paint. [Re: JohnRR] #31302
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Roger Gibson has the right stuff. I have seen motors done with clear and I think they are way too shiny. The OEM formula would be single stage...


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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: sg333e] #31303
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As stated in the original post, I have used a flattener in the clear and it worked out great, not too shiny. All I need is the correct color. The urethane base/clear is truly superior, especially for those who actually DRIVE or RACE their cars. The paint will hold up to anything you put to it. If you use the Gibson stuff without a gloss hardener, the paint will fall off the motor the minute it comes into contact with fuel or brake cleaner, etc.

Codes, anyone????


Mike

Re: Engine Paint. [Re: HPMike] #31304
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I think this was discussed in depth about 5mo ago.Mike R probably saved all the info.

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I did a search on the word "mandarin" in the A12 Restoration forum, here is the thread https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post2382148
AZ A12 Bee has an attached photo of the paint code on the can of paint. I've attached the photo also.

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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: Dave Watt] #31306
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mandarin orange is correct

Re: Engine Paint. [Re: JohnRR] #31307
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perfect timing , i need to paint my engine and an air cleaner for a friend , though i'll just do a single stage ??? no clear coat here .

mike theres a thread started by djvcuda bashing bill hirsh paint that i think had some info on other paint and codes ?





here is the thread you are talking about... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1


i have to agree the enamel that bill hirsh sells is just old school junk...

djv used U-tech 3.8 on a few motors including mine and it is some great stuff. looks great and has held awesome.. looks as good almost 2 years later as it did the day it was sprayed and my car sits out side all the time....


here is the info from the can of paint that was used on my motor....


it is U-tech 3.8 ( its a high solids urathane single stage paint)

yr. 1960 mfg: dupont code: 5067u

color: orange

sfx: k sys: 4 voc: 0.36

mixed 10-23-04

contains lead.


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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: abodyjoe] #31309
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Anyone use the POR-15 engine paint? I hear the
color is right and it's pretty tough
I haven't used it..... just inquiring.

Later, BUZZ

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i have used 2 coats of epoxy primer and 2 coats of u-tech 3.8 for 3 engines now... I will NEVER use anything else, that bill hirsh garbage is weak, the u-tech is capable of withstanding brake cleaner, or anything else you throw at it... my engine caught fire, adn I cleaned it up with brake cleaner and dtarting fuild... it just washed the soot away, to reveal clean paint!


Re: Engine Paint. [Re: sg333e] #31311
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Roger Gibson has the right stuff.




all Gibson does is repackage paint you can just go down to the local store and buy without the middleman mark up


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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: buzz440] #31312
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Anyone use the POR-15 engine paint? I hear the
color is right and it's pretty tough
I haven't used it..... just inquiring.

Later, BUZZ





I used it. Looks good to me. Not sure about correct though.


Re: Engine Paint. [Re: DJVCuda] #31313
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i have used 2 coats of epoxy primer and 2 coats of u-tech 3.8 for 3 engines now... I will NEVER use anything else, that bill hirsh garbage is weak, the u-tech is capable of withstanding brake cleaner, or anything else you throw at it... my engine caught fire, adn I cleaned it up with brake cleaner and dtarting fuild... it just washed the soot away, to reveal clean paint!






I was told too much paint can hold in a lot of heat.
Isn't that a lot of paint on the motor? Does it hold in too much heat?

MikeE


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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: abodyjoe] #31314
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hello,
i have to repaint my 440 6 pack engine and engine compartment and want your input on the proper paint for the job??
any suggestions??
thanks in advance,
bob

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Re: Engine Paint. [Re: sg333e] #31315
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primer is a big waste of time as is base clear. acrylic enamel with hardner or a good single stage is all you need.the more paint [primer] you use on your engine the sooner it will fall off in big chunks.most low gloss engines look like they were painted with spray cans.i will take the Roger Gibson look any day over the home brewed spray can look.

Re: Engine Paint. [Re: sixbbl69] #31316
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I just used the Mandarin Orange in a single stage (DAR 3116 H) which is for a 79 AMC (easier to find the recipe) It looks great! Thanks for the info. Trying to get it together for Mopar in the Park (MN) June 2-3. Dropped the tranny on my arm sunday night- so I'm slowed up a bit. Amazing the numbing effect of beer isn't it? Should have a pulse for the first time since 1986, I can't wait to hear it!

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primer is a big waste of time as is base clear. acrylic enamel with hardner or a good single stage is all you need.the more paint [primer] you use on your engine the sooner it will fall off in big chunks.most low gloss engines look like they were painted with spray cans.i will take the Roger Gibson look any day over the home brewed spray can look.




spray bombs work me me , i 'em , not sit around with the hood/off open sipping umbrella drinks

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primer is a big waste of time as is base clear. acrylic enamel with hardner or a good single stage is all you need.the more paint [primer] you use on your engine the sooner it will fall off in big chunks.most low gloss engines look like they were painted with spray cans.i will take the Roger Gibson look any day over the home brewed spray can look.




spray bombs work me me , i 'em , not sit around with the hood/off open sipping umbrella drinks




Now you're gonna hurt the feelings of all the guys that like umbrella drinks, you insensitive clod!!




J/K, I also used a spray bomb on mine (Plastikote Hemi Orange) and frankly, most of the spray booth, base clear, bodyshop engine jobs I've seen looked way too glossy and usually the wrong color. I'm sure some people (like HPMike) have nailed it down using those methods, but it seems like overkill to me and trust me; I've gone off the deep end on some other details (many that can't even be seen!). Honestly, before threads like this on Moparts, it wouldn't have ever occured to me to do it any other way. In the old days, the only guys I remember with bodyshop paintjobs on thier motors were the ones with color matched engine blocks and chrome everything.

......what did the factory use, anyway? None of my original engines looked any better than a good spray-bomb job.


Anywho, to each thier own.



Dave


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home brewed spray can look.

spray bombs work me me , i 'em , not sit around with the hood/off open sipping umbrella drinks




Spray bomb works for me and I love to my car.

BTW, what's wrong with Foo-foo drinks


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