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Water pump #3128554
03/11/23 07:43 PM
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I have a leaky, wobbling Milodon Aluminum water pump. Are there rebuild parts available for these like the stock water pumps? Or is this just time to throw out?

Re: Water pump [Re: 469runner] #3128557
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Re: Water pump [Re: 469runner] #3128582
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Call Milidon twocents


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Re: Water pump [Re: Cab_Burge] #3128742
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Call Milidon twocents
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Re: Water pump [Re: larrymopar360] #3129052
03/13/23 01:46 PM
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Pump only had about 2500 miles on it in 10 years time. I called Milodon. They said it was well out of warranty period. I was told when they sit around undriven so long, the seals dry out and then the bearings go. Not rebuildable. Looking I saw it was actually a GMB pump, made in Japan, marketed as high volume with a disc welded to the impellor and sold by Milodon. Oh well, thanks for the suggestions and I'll try and drive the car more.

Re: Water pump [Re: 469runner] #3129077
03/13/23 02:39 PM
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without sounding stupid, [pretty easy for me ! biggrin] big block pumps are somewhat easy to disassemble if one has access to [or owns] a shop press.
before using the press, accurately measure the distance the fan attaching block is from the housing so it can be reinstalled in the proper position.
make sure to properly support the housing so you don't break it pressing the shaft out. practicing on a junk pump is a good idea if one has never used a press before.
once the shaft is out, it is easy to see how the bearings and seal[s] are arranged/pressed on the shaft and into the housing. carefully remove using supports and other means to remove the bearings and seals.
in almost every instance, the bearings and seals have identifying numbers on them so replacements can be obtained.
after obtaining new bearings and seals, reassemble in the reverse, making sure the fan attaching block ends up in the original location, so pulley alignment does not change.
with all that said, is it worth the effort ? it depends..........
if you are restoring your ride and are sure the water pump is original, or has the casting numbers you need and want, maybe so.
for the vast majority of the rest of us, no. just buy a new pump and be done with it.
however, if one wants to learn how a pump is put together and what the internals look like, the only way to learn stuff is to take the item apart. even if you don't put it back together and just toss the parts in the junk pile, at least you saw how it was assembled and what was inside, even if you broke the housing in the press because you didn't have it supported correctly.
i have wasted a huge amount of time and effort over the years "breaking" parts just to "see" inside them.
just my old guy experience. your mileage will vary.
beer

Re: Water pump [Re: 469runner] #3129083
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Originally Posted by 469runner
Pump only had about 2500 miles on it in 10 years time. I called Milodon. They said it was well out of warranty period. I was told when they sit around undriven so long, the seals dry out and then the bearings go. Not rebuildable. Looking I saw it was actually a GMB pump, made in Japan, marketed as high volume with a disc welded to the impellor and sold by Milodon. Oh well, thanks for the suggestions and I'll try and drive the car more.

Probably the reason they said "not rebuildable" was because if they did the rebuild it would cost more than a new one. Maybe a lot more.
They most likely buy the pump with the plate already assembled from GMB. Doubt they stock any parts or have any of the assembly tooling.

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Re: Water pump [Re: 469runner] #3129183
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Originally Posted by 469runner
Pump only had about 2500 miles on it in 10 years time. I called Milodon. They said it was well out of warranty period. I was told when they sit around undriven so long, the seals dry out and then the bearings go. Not rebuildable. Looking I saw it was actually a GMB pump, made in Japan, marketed as high volume with a disc welded to the impellor and sold by Milodon. Oh well, thanks for the suggestions and I'll try and drive the car more.


I smells Bull💩 in zee above statement as my old german boss would say LOL, that would be followed up with VER IS U R DATA ??
Vhat u say maiks no senze. UR zeels dry owt sitting on zee shelf? NO? Howz tahy do so en motor wiz koolunt ?

LOL he was a great man that i learned A LOT from up







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